Any regular lurkers here will probably know that the general sentiment in this sub towards PCCB and center lock wheel is pretty negative as they are seen as nothing more than a marketing ploy from Porsche with no real benefits and is a pretty stupid options to choose.
Like, if you prefer lug nuts and steel brakes for whatever reason then you do you really. It’s your car. But when you start calling people stupid for choosing Ceramic Brakes and Center Lock rims then you are just being a hypocrite and an ass.
People keep saying that there are no real benefits of Ceramic Brakes and Center Lock wheel on and off tracks, and in fact makes it harder for maintenances. That might be true. But you know what? Some people don’t care about those things. They just want what looks cool to them. And when you think about it, there really is no real reason why anyone need to buy a sportscar in the first place. It’s a bad financial decision. Encouraging risky and illegal behaviour. It’s also pretty bad for environment. Also annoys your neighbour.
But we get them anyway because we like them and that’s all there is to it. Same goes for whatever options people choose on their car. So it’s really hypocritical when people here try to tell others why they are not supposed to like ceramic brakes and centerlock wheels. Just make ya’ll seems like an angry vocal reddit car nerds with strong opinion honestly.
So yeah, tone down with the echochamber and let people enjoy what they like.
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“We all want to buy a garage queen and sell a whore.”
- Abraham Lincoln most likely
Amen
Center locks with carbon ceramic’s
Well said
Center lock is just a fastening mechanism.
Ceramics take a bit to “warm up”. I run ceramics with high carbon rotors. They usually squeal a bit in the morning and go away quickly. I can get into a spirited drive where there’s advantages on the brakes, but most people are just “commuters” that think they need something they don’t need.
also in general, carbon brakes prefers a single firm application insted of a lot of gentle taps wich is fine if you are on track but if you are in traffic it gets annoying preatty quickly
Have both on my Turbo S. Clean wheels, fantastic braking and looks cool. Phuck the jealous haters 😂
The guys complaining the most about centerlocks being hard to change don’t even realize that spare tires aren’t even in the cars.
For real lol. I saw someone mentioned how it would be difficult to replace your center lock wheel if you get a flat tyre and doesn’t have access to a nearby tyre shop.
Like, how would lug nuts change anything when you don’t even have a spare tyre?
These guys have no idea how center lock wheels work.
#metoo 😂
I’d just laugh at such sentiments.
those people are just delusional. You can go round and round with that argument until it gets the point of ‘nobody needs anything more than a civic on the street’. I got ceramics on my gt3 because personally i think chalk with yellow calipers and seat belts looks better than chalk with red ones. the lack of brake dust is an added bonus
I got ceramics on my gt3
you also have a gt3, wich i imagine you’d be using on track from time to time were they are actually usefull
if i tracked i would do what most owners do and swap to iron discs as its cheaper to run.
this has to be the most backward reasoning i’ve ever heard but ok
Lack of brake dust is a huge bonus.
With all the rim theft going on around the country center locks is also a plus 😂. Doubt criminals are riding around with a center lock tool
PCCB’S, center lock wheels, and a manual transmission = literally unstealable car.
😂😂
Personally I’d much rather have steel rotors and 5 lug wheels, overall it is just much easier and cleaner and cheaper to deal with on a street car.
PCCBs are sweet though, downright impressive performance.
Cleaner as in looks?
Heh… yeah… that stuff is brutal. Doesn’t matter how careful you are… it’s gonna get you.
Now do this again with manual/PDK.
you want to drive manual on a PDK?
That’s a paddlin’
Manual is fun until you actually have to drive it like a responsible adult.
You’re totally right. Manuals do force you to have more fun. Damn them, damn them all to hell!
I had PFC brakes on my GT3 and I went BACK to ceramics. I’m quite fast. :)
Any old shop swap center locks these days, its easy. People swap CLs at the track all the time.
Most of this sub is “rate my configurator spec”, just take it for what it is. Reddit.
I purchased the renntorq tool for my center locks and it’s now easier and faster to swap wheels than my 5 lug cars.
I should take a look. Where did you get yours? Is it easy to learn how to use it?
The only people I’ve encountered that don’t like PCCBs can’t afford PCCBs. Or even a 911 for that matter.
To be quite honest I have no hate for any of them. My wheels on the targa are 5 lugs and I ordered some wheels from WiseMotorsports that have a 5 lug with a centre lock cover (about 15 nm to lock them tight as a cover. Comes with the wrench too). But I would never go with a centre lock on a daily car like Panamera or Cayenne because when it goes flat, changing the tire is going to be A REAL PAIN IN THE ASS!
Not to mention that you must carry a full size spare cause those skinnies don’t got CL types.
PCCBs are well… fucking awesome, but if you track the shit out of the car and you are balling like Drake to maintain those things. On a day to day basis though, they aren’t too bad. Not a lot of brake dust and the pads last way longer than the metallic pads on steel discs. I would never pay the price for them though cause I still don’t got money to track my car down every Sunday 😂
Who cares what the internet says…. You do you. It’s your car.
Why would OP intentionally solicit an argument? Who cares what you think? Buy what you want.