• MagicShel@programming.dev
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    11 months ago

    Well… This presumes there is a difference. Maybe a collector is just a hoarder with enough money? Let’s try this: accumulating a stock of items that are priced based on historicity and rarity is collecting. Amassing a bunch of things that are mass produced and have no value beyond the intrinsic is hoarding.

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      11 months ago

      No. There’s a clear line that someone crosses when they’re hoarding. The physical space is unsafe and the people typically have some deep trauma they are not working through well. GP used the term “hoarding” to describe “dangerous weapons collectors” in a slurry way.

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        GP used the term “hoarding” to describe “dangerous weapons collectors” in a slurry way.

        I’m not sure what “a slurry way” is, but it doesn’t sound very kind.

        I just mean “hoarding” in the way a dragon amasses gold. More than could serve any conceivable purpose.

        The physical space is unsafe and the people typically have some deep trauma they are not working through well.

        This is a fairly modern definition tied to a very particular mental illness popularized by reality tv programs. It’s not the dictionary definition of “hoarding”.

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        That seems like a convenient definition if one wants to okay possession of large numbers of guns. Thinking on it, collecting anything with no non-intrinsic value seems like obsessive behavior. Just because the obsession doesn’t express itself in physically hazardous ways doesn’t mean it’s healthy.

        Mental health is largely about being functional. There are lots of people out there who are functional but unwell (and they are considered mentally healthy) until one day something pushes us over the brink. My son has bipolar and is able to function fairly well, but the incident that led to the diagnosis was a disaster. No one knew until he flipped in an incident that put him and everyone around him in danger. Fortunately guns weren’t involved.

        The point of which is the accumulation of guns may very well be an indicator of a mental illness being kept in check and just waiting for the right trigger to turn into tragedy. And regardless of whether you agree or not, I think that’s what the OC was getting at: amassing a bunch of anything, specifically guns in this case, beyond what one can use is inherently an indicator of illness. I agree with that in concept although I think there is a lot of room for disagreement about what is an unhealthy number.