‘They were moving me all around and I had a broken neck.’

Imagine falling and breaking your neck, but no one takes you to the hospital right away.

That’s exactly what a local woman says happened to her inside the St. Clair County Jail and now she’s trying to make sure something like this doesn’t happen to anyone else.

Lisa Brown takes full responsibility for why she ended up briefly behind bars. But now she says a 20-day jail sentence has left her with a life sentence of partial paralysis and disability.

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      We don’t have a justice system. We have an incarceration industrial complex. It also doubles as a replacement for (now technically illegal) slave labor.

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      Correct. Im friendly with a CO who regularly gets derided for taking inmates to the infirmary when they say they’re sick. The CO cultural MO seems to be everyone’s faking it unless you can see blood or bone. The dudes proactivity has stopped what could have been a major flu outbreak and still they ride his ass when he brings sick inmates to the infirmary. Even the doctors working there dont like that he brings sick patients to them. It’s rotten apples almost all the way down.

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        Got a close friend in CO training. They love him because he denies the inmates anything they ask for. Told him long before he started, they’re going to change him for the worse. And it’s happening.

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          Sorry to tell you, your close friend is already a bad person. Good people don’t volunteer to oppress people and deny their needs, especially after being told it’s going to make them worse.

          Something something the company you keep…

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            He’s 21 with no education or skills. Here he gets offered a job that pays decently, has free training and has solid benefits, best thing he’s ever been offered.

            He has no idea what he’s getting into. And now that he’s into it, he’s succeeding and being lauded for once in his life, told he’s doing great, for once in his life.

            Take your judgement on down the road. I’m doing what I can for him.

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              Oh, he’s doing a great job and getting rewarded for treating people badly? Fuck that

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      Even if only subconsciously, this is exactly the same side of humanity that came out in the Holocaust.

      The Nazis didn’t just exterminate people in the Holocaust. They also mistreated them horribly, tortured them, played sadistic mind games with them.

      That same shit is in all of us, and it comes out if we don’t manage ourselves correctly.

      A woman who breaks her neck in jail and doesn’t get treated for three days is not just a story of incompetence. It is a story of sadism. It’s a story of evil.

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        That same shit is in all of us

        I don’t believe this is true, I don’t believe I personally could ever take pleasure in another’s serious pain (i.e. doesn’t include laughing at my friend slipping on a banana). While many in nazi germany may have had a bit of repressed sadism, many others had to be tricked or coerced into doing banal evil things.

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          It’s all about empathy. If you dehumanise a group enough they become “other” to your human subconscious, and you exhibit sociopathic behaviour toward them.

          The problem is that it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you dehumanise someone to the smallest degree and feel guilt (because you’re still a good person), your subconscious will dehumanise them further in order to cope. (e.g they’re criminals so they’ve probably done worse). Then the next time you abuse them, it becomes easier.

          This self perpetuating cycle keeps happening until you feel absolutely no sympathy for them, and consequently no guilt.

          Now, the real question is whether or not you’re capable of dehumanising someone to begin with. I personally think that yes, we’re all capable, and all it takes is some bad influence (e.g bad preconceptions/media brainwashing), and in the case of police officers, a healthy dose of peer pressure.

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            I don’t think dehumanization works on everybody. Dehumanization works on already kinda shitty people that view themselves as above others. I am not like that personally and I’m sure I’m not nearly the only one. I simply don’t see myself as entitled to cause suffering in any other conscious being, human or not (except that which is necessary to sustain life as an omnivore – which I am entitled as a living being).

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              So you’re saying that there’s a certain group of people that dehumanization works on? And a different group that it doesn’t work on? Two distinct categories of people?

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                Clearly, what’s your point? There are many groupings people can be put into depending on perspective.

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                  Only that dehumanization does not literally mean they don’t think the people are human.

                  What the word refers to is a situation in which moral vulnerabilities are present only in some other group, which the home group doesn’t fall prey too. That they’re a slightly different type of human, which is missing some moral safeguard and therefore presents a threat in a way the home group could never present.

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    I’m usually one to discount news stories for being dramatic and misleading, but this one is pretty rough. Unsure how she fell in the first place, but the video of her on the floor with the pointed toes is rough to watch. That’s a hard one to fake, and is a clear sign of spinal trauma.

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      The article states clearly how she fell. She was sleeping on the top bunk in her cell, about 6’ off the ground, and apparently she rolled off and hit the ground, causing a cervical fracture.

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        Right, I read that part. I’m not very knowledgeable on the topic, but wouldn’t a top bunk have a railing?

        For what it’s worth, I’ve seen plenty of inmates who “fell from the top bunk” and they have obvious knuckle marks on their cheeks from being punched. So I’m a little suspicious of those kinds of “falls”.

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    I hate these sob story videos American news stations make of these things. I don’t need to see this lady struggling to figure out that this is a horrible thing.