I don’t give a shit, and neither should anybody else (except power company engineers). Not only are those problems incredibly minor and surmountable compared to climate change, bringing it up is almost exclusively done in bad faith. And even if your intentions aren’t nefarious, it still doesn’t add anything of value to the conversation.
In other words, stop being a ‘devil’s advocate’ for the fossil fuel industry’s propagandists. They don’t need your help!
Manufacturing and installation manpower are very real problems that take many years to solve. We needed to start working on them a long time ago. And they should be the first step in moving forward.
That’s not what you said before. First you were talking about about “problems with relying too heavily on solar power,” now you’re talking about lack of manpower to ramp up to that point. So which is it? You can’t have it both ways.
Frankly, it sounds like you’re just saying anything negative that comes to mind in order to concern troll.
Problem here is that the engineers are saying “this problem is hard for these reasons” and people like you are screaming that you don’t care, fix it. And when they say it’ll take X years, your scream that it isn’t good enough. Or that the goal posts are moving (problems are complex and involve more than one thing). There standard you’re setting is unreasonable.
Calm down (helpful I know). Stop yelling at people when they are trying to work the problem. It isn’t going to get done the way you like but it can get done if you stop asking for impossible.
First of all, @roofuskit is talking on Lemmy, not “trying to work the problem.” Second – and I say this as an engineer myself – the last thing engineers need is a bunch of randos from the public trying to white-knight for them with half-understood factoids and spreading FUD in the process.
Really? I’m an electrical engineer and your understanding of the problem indicates you aren’t an engineer or you suck at your job (or did you not just positively assert production capacity and storage are minor problems?). Any decent engineer wouldn’t call out moving goal posts on a complex problem. Public awareness of difficulties is a way to get support for decidedly unsexy problems (nothing gets people hard like utilities). And layman screaming about shit they don’t understand is also a problem.
your understanding of the problem indicates you aren’t an engineer or you suck at your job (or did you not just positively assert production capacity and storage are minor problems?)
I said that they’re minor compared to climate change.
Failing to understand context is a way bigger indication of an engineer sucking at their job than anything I did.
And that comparison is worthless. Fucking everything is minor compared to the destruction of the planet, but that doesn’t help. It’s dismissive of real issues and only makes things harder.
Thus I hold that you suck at your job if you aren’t lying on the Internet. I also note that you neglected my other points.
They are both problems. They both can and do exist. Decentralizing like you suggested reduces the problems from my first comment, but it brings a whole new set of problems that are arguably bigger. Either way the capacity needed to attempt it will take huge leaps in manufacturing and installation capacity. And we need to get started on that yesterday if we want this to happen in a decade.
I don’t give a shit, and neither should anybody else (except power company engineers). Not only are those problems incredibly minor and surmountable compared to climate change, bringing it up is almost exclusively done in bad faith. And even if your intentions aren’t nefarious, it still doesn’t add anything of value to the conversation.
In other words, stop being a ‘devil’s advocate’ for the fossil fuel industry’s propagandists. They don’t need your help!
Manufacturing and installation manpower are very real problems that take many years to solve. We needed to start working on them a long time ago. And they should be the first step in moving forward.
That’s not what you said before. First you were talking about about “problems with relying too heavily on solar power,” now you’re talking about lack of manpower to ramp up to that point. So which is it? You can’t have it both ways.
Frankly, it sounds like you’re just saying anything negative that comes to mind in order to concern troll.
Problem here is that the engineers are saying “this problem is hard for these reasons” and people like you are screaming that you don’t care, fix it. And when they say it’ll take X years, your scream that it isn’t good enough. Or that the goal posts are moving (problems are complex and involve more than one thing). There standard you’re setting is unreasonable.
Calm down (helpful I know). Stop yelling at people when they are trying to work the problem. It isn’t going to get done the way you like but it can get done if you stop asking for impossible.
First of all, @roofuskit is talking on Lemmy, not “trying to work the problem.” Second – and I say this as an engineer myself – the last thing engineers need is a bunch of randos from the public trying to white-knight for them with half-understood factoids and spreading FUD in the process.
Really? I’m an electrical engineer and your understanding of the problem indicates you aren’t an engineer or you suck at your job (or did you not just positively assert production capacity and storage are minor problems?). Any decent engineer wouldn’t call out moving goal posts on a complex problem. Public awareness of difficulties is a way to get support for decidedly unsexy problems (nothing gets people hard like utilities). And layman screaming about shit they don’t understand is also a problem.
I said that they’re minor compared to climate change.
Failing to understand context is a way bigger indication of an engineer sucking at their job than anything I did.
And that comparison is worthless. Fucking everything is minor compared to the destruction of the planet, but that doesn’t help. It’s dismissive of real issues and only makes things harder.
Thus I hold that you suck at your job if you aren’t lying on the Internet. I also note that you neglected my other points.
They are both problems. They both can and do exist. Decentralizing like you suggested reduces the problems from my first comment, but it brings a whole new set of problems that are arguably bigger. Either way the capacity needed to attempt it will take huge leaps in manufacturing and installation capacity. And we need to get started on that yesterday if we want this to happen in a decade.
Re-read the thread, paying attention to usernames, and then tell me what I suggested.