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Has anyone bought from here before? Looking to upgrade my NAS drives.
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They’re generally highly regarded.
Censorship of words makes me not know which definition of regarded you are using.
I too like posting cryptic, non-detailed complaints with minimal to no explanation, logic, or rationale for the express intent to sow confusion and chaos while simultaneously standing for nothing
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On Reddit, wallstreetbets used to call everything “retarded” and they’ve stopped and moved to “regarded” as a way of “almost” saying an offensive word.
That’s regarded
It was bad, and the funny part is that they were using Retarded as a slur too much and had it taken away after complaints from civil rights watch groups, as disabilities are a protected class, but the proponents would try to claim they were using it as a term of endearment in the ultimate bad faith argument.
Dude what are you even trying to say here
Approx 35k power on hours. Tested with 0 errors, 0 bad sectors, 0 defects. SMART details intact.
That’s about 4 years of power on time. Considering they’re enterprise grade equipment, they should still be good for many years to come, but it is worth taking into consideration.
I’ve bought from these guys before, packaging was super professional. Card board box with special designed drive holders made of foam; each drive is also individually packed with anti-static bags and silica packs.
Highly recommend.
All my server drives come to me with these many hours and truck on for many years.
This is pretty standard for enterprise equipments — comes with some amount of years of warranty, enterprises depreciate the cost over that many years and sell them as/before the warranty expires to get whatever value they can get (as far as books concerned, they’re already depreciated to $0 anyway).
Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/
Pretty sure that’s the usual preventive wear clicking sound that’s just part of newer drives’ design…?
Came here to ask about the hours. Some quick searching looked like 5 years is an average time to failure, but that might have been for lower-grade hardware?
Backblaze has drives with very similar models in service, has an annualized failure rate of less than 1% on average, and have been in service for 5 years. The average age will continue to rise as usage time continues to rack up.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
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How noisy are these? I have a pair of shucked WD drives that should be equivalent to reds, and they’re pretty noisy in my otherwise quiet home office. Given they’re only 8TB, upgrading them to SSDs for full silence is something in considering as soon as the pricing and availability permits.
They are very noisy. Lots of clicking and whirring. Enterprise drives are not the same as consumer drives. As others have said this is a great price but I would not recommend using them in a room you are trying to focus in.
I just bought two of their 12TB for $100 each and they were the manufactured recertified. One had like 8 hours run time and the second had like 36 hours so brand new for the lifetime of a hard drive. So far no issues. Also beware these drives are very loud.
Refurbished drives get their SMART data reset during the process, they absolutely had more than that originally.
Oh wow I did not know that.
That’s absolutely terrifying. Like resetting the speedometer for used cars.
Amazon reseller for xbox drives was getting 10 year old dirty crusty drives and swapping the HD controller to a more recent one. So SMART report looked like a young drive. Xbox casing had a sticker or warranty void. So me being me wondered and opened it to find a dirty ass old drive inside. i called Amazon and initially they said it is outside of return window and warranty…But i explained it doesn’t matter when I detected the fraud it is still fraud. So they gave me my money back
This has got me concerned, wondering how do you tell it’s old if the controller is replaced? Are there serials or dates on the other parts or just obvious wear?
For the ones I had, the corrosion of the metal and stained labels was the give away (looked like they had been out on an autoshop repair bench), but each part had its own label dates. HDD was way older date than the controller board.
Odometer*
You mean odometer, resetting the speedometer wouldn’t be a bad thing.
Hang on, you don’t typically buy your cars at 15Km/h?
Usually I buy them at a slower speed as I’m not in shape
Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/
Yeah I think that’s normal , I moved my NAS to a closet because of how loud the drives are. I wasn’t even able to sleep with that noise lol
Reposting as top level comment also: these are PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters) Just be aware.
When I bought some of these earlier this year, the re-seller included an adapter that blocked those pins to prevent the reset issue. Didn’t know what they were for at first and almost tossed them. (I should have read the included slip of paper)
As someone who regularly ships items with a slip of paper meant to be read, this was infuriating to read. Lmao
Classic overconfidence - “I have installed a hard drive before, what could they possibly be trying to tell me on that paper?”
I learned and won’t make that mistake again… until I do
Tape it to the item.
Witg a big fat warning symbol.Anything beyond that was done in purpose
When you’re shipping one item, sure… kinda. When you’re shipping five, it doesn’t make sense to tape the exact same thing to every single one. Especially if the paper is bigger than the item.
We typically affix it to the invoice and package so it’s seen first thing. That’s the best solution we’ve come up with.
I really wish we had a service like this on Europe.
I know they ship to Europe. But shipping costs are prohibitive for small buys.
Plus tax. Finland is stopping everything from outside EU and demanding proof that tax is paid. So I have to look at the prices with postage and add 24%.
And here I thought Germany had it bad with 19%…
Look on eBay, there are oftentimes some from server farm providers like hetzner
Ah hell. For that price I grabbed 4. I think the same source is selling on newegg as well for a similar price.
Would love to buy some, but shipping to EU is too expensive.
“Seller refurbished” just means they’re used and were tested, right?
It means they put a new sticker over the old one, and they don’t rattle when you shake them.
Most likely, yes
Interest to know this too, deal appears too good…
If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.
6gb sas is regularly found for 30-40$. 80$ for 12gb sounds reasonnable. And you’ll save 50% power per GB
What’s the catch? Is there a catch?
These are used drives that have about 35K hours (4 years) of power on time.
Good quality drives to be sure, but maybe not as reliable now as they once were.
Read it as 120TB at first and my eyes nearly jumped out of their sockets.
12 TB for $80 is a deal for me! My 8tb was around $200 to $300 in 2021
It’s “refurbed” by the seller. It also says it has approximately 35,000 hours on it. That’s 4 years of continual use. I wouldn’t trust that with anything.
That drive could run another 5 years without any problems.
It certainly could. That’s the gamble you’re taking.
I usually replace drives after 5 years if they are doing anything I consider important. So those drives to me would have 1-2 years left in them. Of course, I have seen a good number of drives I have repurposed to things less important still manage to rack up impressive numbers of hours.
the drives I’ve purchased from them in the past have been great considering they’re used server parts.
considering they’re used server parts.
That really should be in the title…
I dunno, I’m one of those people who never stops using a drive until it breaks, and they never really break anymore. Oldest in my current PC is probably 20 year old HDD.
So yeah, these probably are fine and will still last a long time.
But for like $20 more you don’t have to worry about losing the data on it.Edit:
Apparently prices just haven’t changed in half a decade or longer? I knew prices went up for COVID, assumed they went back down at some point.
A new 12 TB drive is literally 300€ now.
I don’t think it was EVER 100€ for a 12TB, certainly not helium filled. Prices during covid went up, but not even near 3x for hard dives.
Not to sound snarky or anything, but since when do prices go down? If people were willing to pay the inflated price, there’s no incentive for them not to make that the new standard.
The entire existence of computers outside the last five years…
I agree to some extent, but even before then hardware was getting expensive thanks to stuff like the Bitcoin mining craze. Harddrives have been getting cheaper on a dollar per TB basis for a long time (as they should), but I remember the days when it was cheaper to build a gaming PC than to buy a new console, and those days are long gone. And after COVID hit, greedflation set in to declare what the new normal is.
Where do you get a 12 tb drive for $100?
Yeah, that’s crazy.
I guess all those $100 deals were used too.
So I guess at least used prices went down?
But I remember years ago a shuckable 12tb for like $120-140 on sale wasnt unusual on buildapcsales.
