If a topic keeps coming up no matter how much you try to censor it, consider that it’s not going away. Some changes are long overdue.

  • Dr. Cester@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Something y’all need to realise is that commenting “Abusing animals is literally H*tler and you should be publicly executed for eating a chickenburger” is not going to turn someone vegan. Go look for smarter ways, god damn it.

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        5 months ago

        Read OP’s comments. OP does think like that which is exactly the problem.

        I come here for the memes, not to be berated for being an “animal abuser”. Memes are supposed to be lighthearted.

        I have no problem with vegans. I have problems with militant vegans like OP. Just like I have a problem with anyone trying to radically shove their beliefs down my throat, no matter what topic it might involve.

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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        5 months ago

        90% of the vegans I encounter are the preachy ones making posts online. The vegans that aren’t like that don’t usually shout about being vegan and call for the death of “carnists” (BTW: there already is a word for meat eater so I don’t know why they had to make another one).

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        The ones that do are really fucking loud and make the rest of you look bad. I’m in the same boat, being an atheist.

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      Isnt that what literally happens everywhere all the time in different context? ‘arabs beat their wives they are evil’, ‘indigenous people take halucinogenic drugs they are evil’, ‘russians kill and rape civilians they are evil’. Usually it is the strong that force their beliefs on the minorities, fortunately you cant force people to eat meat by law.

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      I’ve never understood why vegans, the ones the vast majority agree are doing something at least good (even if you don’t understand it’s a moral obligation), are the ones that have to cater to the genocidal masses.

      Stop and think for a second, imagine you live in a wild, wild world where the vegan position is actually correct. Imagine that you’re a vegan, and those around you are actually supporting an unjustified animal holocaust. Then think about how your critique of vegans comes off. It’s the genocidal maniacs complaining about how they’re treated unfairly on the internet because sometimes someone attacks their delicate sensibilities.

      It’s not my responsibility to engage with you in such a way that makes you a better person. Your own failings are your own, and my failings are my own. My failings are I sometimes make someone on the internet a bit sad, and yours are participating in a market demanding tens of billions of animal deaths every year, a quantitative level of suffering we’ve never seen before.

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        5 months ago

        Just stop and think for a second. We’re talking about posting in meme communities. Meme communities are for lighthearted jokes, not serious discussions and berating people.

        I think Christianity does a lot of harm to the world. But posting anti-Christian memes in a generic meme community is in incredibly poor taste, no matter how valid I feel about my views.

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          Dark humor is a real thing, and it’s fine and even cathartic for a lot of people. Joking about fascists, genocide-enablers, etc. is something some people find in poor taste, while others find it cathartic. Neither is wrong.

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        Because acting like a self righteous douchebag turns people off and hurts your movement. That’s counterproductive.

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          It’s more counterproductive to be a non-vegan and try to convince nobody. I’ve had a good deal of success convincing people to go vegan. There are definitely vegans that are more successful than me, but you want to know who is always less successful? Non-vegans who rage online about vegans.

          They should be the focus of our criticism, both in their own actions, and even as a broader strategy for enacting change.