• sunzu@kbin.run
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    9 days ago

    Aint it limited to destitute wage slaves pretty much?

    W2 only?

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      9 days ago

      So I thought to myself, well that’s a weird comment. It’s nonsensical in a couple of different ways.

      1. Creating a program that does something good that wasn’t there before doesn’t somehow become a bad thing if there are ways in which it doesn’t do enough. Almost every real action which takes place in the real world represents some kind of imperfect step towards an ideal future, not like a “we got it perfect the first time and every single nook and cranny of the objective is satisfied by this, the first attempt we made to improve things.”
      2. People who draw mostly W2 income actually aren’t “destitute” necessarily. I don’t even know where the connection came from. Most people who are struggling in life have simple taxes. Most people who are doing well have complicated taxes this doesn’t apply to. Your complaint, even taking the rest of it at face value and using some un-addressed population as a reason not to address things for the 140,000 people in the pilot program or however many millions will be addressed by this second phase, is backwards.

      So I sort of wondered to myself: Why would someone be so aggressively negative in this specific way about something that almost any normal human being would look at and say “hey that’s good,” and for such weird and counterlogical reasons?

      And so I looked three comments back in your history and said oooooohhhhhhhh okay I get it it all makes sense now.

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        9 days ago

        I didn’t say it wasn’t good, just highlighted the programs’s limitation. U weaved this story around it lol

        Let’s see if the tax prep lobby will allow them to love beyond pure w2 wage slaves.

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          9 days ago

          So you think it’s a good thing, just doesn’t go far enough / needs to be extended further in the same direction in the future?

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            9 days ago

            My bigger concern is that it won’t happen due to the strong lobby, yes

            W is a W, and starting from the bottom makes sense.

            But between income restrictions and complexity thresholds…

            Why does it have 79k agi limit? What purpuse does this limit serve beyond sending people earning more to paid clowns…

            If limit is w2 then just make it w2 jfc

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              9 days ago

              Sure. My question is, why such a concerted effort to look for bad things about such a clear win?

              Like would it work the other way? If the IRS was making life more difficult and expensive for everyone making W2 income under $79k, would you be out here saying well I guess an L is an L, but let’s remember it only applies to W2 earners and only some of them and anyway it’ll probably get overturned later on and I want to highlight the program’s important limitations and etc etc, instead of just saying “that’s a bad thing” like a normal person?

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                9 days ago

                It seems your issue is my delivery which is all good but that’s how I choose to deliver my message.

                I don’t provide factually incorrect info, if I do, please correct me.

                I have no issue with learning!

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      9 days ago

      78% of Americans make what you call “destitute wages” and live paycheck to paycheck on W2 income.

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        9 days ago

        78% of American taxpayers* only have a w2?

        Kinda hard to believe but I guess half does live pay check to pay check.

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      9 days ago

      I only have anecdotal info for based on some reading I did last year. As far as I recall, the program and software are new. So they’re slowly building up features for more complicated tax scenarios an in turn, slowly making it accessible to more of the population.

      It’s just a matter of time before this is widely available. I read the post title as “we succeeded in this first year’s test and plan to continue the program”.

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      9 days ago

      Despite the downvotes, yes. The IRS should be obligated to put out software that can service everyone, in every tax scenario.