Google 1970s Iran vs now. It’s an interesting contrast of how quickly societies can change; and some would argue, not towards the future but backwards.

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      Nobody ever posts the “Here’s a teenage boy who has been beaten bloody by the Shah’s secret police” photo from the 1970s

      Neither do we get the “Meet the PhD student who graduated without a penny of debt” from the 2020s.

      But the sepia photograph of a hot girl in a short dress? Literally the only evidence we have that Iran even exists.

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        Nobody ever posts the “Here’s a teenage boy who has been beaten bloody by the Shah’s secret police” photo from the 1970s

        Probably because the contrast is what makes it eye-catching, whereas “Secret police are the same in Iran now as they were in Iran in the 1970s” presents very little contrast.

        Neither do we get the “Meet the PhD student who graduated without a penny of debt” from the 2020s.

        … that’s the norm in most countries that don’t bear the abbreviation “USA”.

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          Probably because the contrast is what makes it eye-catching

          So you agree it’s more about attention seeking than drawing a cogent argument?

          … that’s the norm in most countries that don’t bear the abbreviation “USA”.

          …is that not the point?

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            No, the point is that things got much worse for women.

            Second that student was a high ranking Muslim straight male. Because no one else is allowed to go to school.

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              So things are only ever black and white? Seems things were only great for a select few privileged people, it’s odd to make it seem otherwise. Might make someone misinformed.

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            So you agree it’s more about attention seeking than drawing a cogent argument?

            … it’s a post in a community about sharing historical photos. Of course it’s about sharing something rather than drawing any kind of argument.

            …is that not the point?

            … to make a comparison that makes only America look bad? If so, their previous example with SAVAK was ill-chosen.

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              Of course it’s about sharing something rather than drawing any kind of argument

              Seems odd OP would make the comparison they did in the title, then.

              … to make a comparison that makes only America look bad

              It was part of a larger comment, not the only statement. Odd that any statement about the US is suddenly only about the US after its made…

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                Seems odd OP would make the comparison they did in the title, then.

                “It seems odd they would share something interesting that contrasts with the current situation.”

                Okay.

                It was part of a larger comment, not the only statement. Odd that any statement about the US is suddenly only about the US after its made…

                what

                You know what, never mind. I don’t actually care enough to figure out what you’re saying.

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        Oh ok, then let me tell you that I’ve known a refugee from Iran. Or we could talk about the fact that they murder women for demanding rights.

        You seem to be defending a theocracy that stole participation in the public sphere from half its population. Rethink your life

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      (Sincere) are you implying that these pictures are the elite/upper class and the counter narrative is more the norm of the time?

      Edit: nvm, other comments in the feed seem to add further context.