• foggy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s weird to me the level of deranged guilt her diary entries show.

    We are responsible for our actions. I just wonder wtf was going on in her head that allowed her to keep doing it. She hated herself for it. Like a lot.

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      That’s the sort of evil I understand and can cope with. There is something wrong with her we don’t have the capacity to understand. Some chemical imbalance or growth pushing on her brain in a certain area.

      It’s the people with nothing wrong with them but allow evil to happen like the hospital administrators that gets me.

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          Sadly, we don’t understand the brain yet. Otherwise perhaps certain things could be visible. I know that there is some research how activity patterns in brains of “psychopaths” difffer from other people. But it is all still on shaky grounds.

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      This is a mental health issue and we need better mental health care options, preferably free.

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        Yes, but it’s difficult to access. You need to want to get the care and actively campaign to be referred.

        And that’s the “easy” things like anxiety or garden variety depression.

        As soon as it gets complicated it’s a whole other story.

        If she never tried to seek it out, then it doesn’t even matter as it appears she didn’t give off any “I murder babies” vibes to the extent that the investigation was delayed beyond a reasonable length of time because she was not suspected of such a thing.

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          It’s so hard, because those families have it so amazingly awful but I can’t imagine her being a sane person and doing what she did. She shouldn’t be on the street and she needed help a long time ago.

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            You may have had a different experience than I had, but in my local authority area, access beyond your GP is very difficult. The list is so long they try to avoid referrals, and if you’re unwell the ability to advocate for yourself is diminished.

            Some would rather chuck a Prozac at you and hope that’ll fix it.

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        There’s a big fucking difference between “i hate myself and want to die” and “might murder a half dozen babies this month”.

        I think you might be asking a bit much of public mental health care, yeah?

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      You’d have to look at what she got out of it emotionally. Other hospital killers did it for a combination of “They were a burden”, “I was putting them out of their misery” and a sense of godlike power of life and death. Some started doing it for seeming mercy reasons but got so comfortable with doing it that they started killing patients because they annoyed them.

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        I think you’re perhaps ignoring what I said about the content of her entries.

        She suffered from her actions, emotionally. A lot. It’s quite clear she got nothing positive emotionally from it:

        "I am evil I did this”.

        The note added: “I don’t deserve to live. I killed them on purpose because I’m not good enough to care for them.

        “I am a horrible person.

        “I hate myself. There are no words. I am an awful person. I pay every day for that.”

        “I panic I’ll never have children. I don’t deserve mum and dad. The world is better off without me. I did this, why me.”

        “No one will ever know what happened and why . . . I’m a failure.”

        “I am a problem to those who do know me . . . it would be much better for everyone if I just went away. I just want to be happy.”

        “Kill me” and “Help me” along with the names of some the babies she murdered.

        In one, Letby scrawled: “I can’t do this anymore. I can’t live like this.

        “No one will ever understand or appreciate what’s like.”

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      I don’t think it’s possible to really understand a person that is that level of abnormal. Or rather, when you have empathy in a somewhat normal range, I think it’s really hard to understand how not having empathy works.