The threats, which already closed government offices and caused school evacuations, come as Trump pushes racist lies

The threats, which already closed government offices and caused school evacuations, come as Trump pushes racist lie

  • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
    74·
    17 days ago

    I doubt it will happen, but it would be poetic justice if so many people get pissed over this that Trump loses Ohio.

    • sudoshakes@reddthat.com
      35·
      16 days ago

      Current model from Silver and the polls raw data averages say it’s not even close. Trump will win the state by a 97.6% to 2.4% spread.

      Because so many of you cannot understand modeling vs polling averages… that is the likelihood of a win as a result of taking poll inputs through Silver’s model, reflecting overall chances of a win as a output.

      It is NOT polling average percentages.

      • tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
        10·
        17 days ago

        In the latest version I found of Nate Silver’s model (not 538), he has Ohio coming in at 52.4% for Trump and 43.6% for Harris, an 8.8% spread. I did not dig deeper to find the dates or particular polls from Ohio he’s basing that on.

        However, based on these numbers, he is likely modelling that Trump wins Ohio in 90%+ of outcomes to Harris’s <5% of outcomes.

        This is the same way he spoke to his model in previous elections. It wasn’t that Hillary was expected to win 80-90% of the popular vote or electoral college just weeks before the 2016 election, it was that his model had her winning that percentage of the outcomes when he ran the model.

        • meco03211@lemmy.world
          2·
          17 days ago

          If it starts to make his numbers dip it could trigger them to divert more money to Ohio it hadn’t previously meant to. Could have a broader effect.

  • Miles O'Brien@startrek.websiteEnglish
    74·
    17 days ago

    They wear their title proudly. Openly admit it in the streets.

    And yet for some reason, are allowed to continue to operate freely.

    Our country goes to war for less.

    Edit: A friend of mine got this shoved in their mailbox today

    Totally not domestic terrorists…

  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    53·
    17 days ago

    The US has always had domestic terrorism sure, but you can’t tell me we didn’t legitimately become a straight up terror state once Trump stochastically sent his goons to do his bidding. Courts are citing the pressure these people are causing in their rulings and handlings of Trump, which means the terrorism is working to alter the rule of law. Since the US law system is based heavily on precedent, there’s a good chance this alteration of the law will extend beyond just for Trump. All it takes is the right (or wrong depending on your perspective) judge and enough money for a damn good lawyer.

    • bustAsh@lemmy.world
      7·
      17 days ago

      Malcolm X had many supporters. He was held responsible when just a handful of them committed ‘terrorist’ acts.

      Malcolm wasn’t innocent in that respect, but far more so than Trump.

  • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    50·
    17 days ago

    He needs to be held responsible, but no one has the balls to do it. This is how he’s been allowed to get where he is.

  • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
    441·
    17 days ago

    So let’s entertain the eating of pets thing was real (it’s not)… How do these help with that? In what way is disrupting hospitals obviously leading to patient care declining not 10000% worse than, eating a duck or cat or whatever…?

    Fuck sake.

    • Linktank@lemmy.today
      32·
      17 days ago

      For these people the point is clearly not about making anything “better” for anybody other than one orange traitor.

      • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        17 days ago

        For sure but I’ll sure as shit pocket this for a discussion with swing voters and the apathetic.

  • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
    26·
    17 days ago

    Genuine question: what’s the success rate of catching and prosecuting people who make these kinds of threats?

    I’m guessing it’s either nearly 100% or depressingly low but nowhere in between.

    • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
      351·
      17 days ago

      Much lower if you’re a right wing domestic terrorist like these fucks, that’s for sure.

      Those who work forces…

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      171·
      17 days ago

      I’d wager a lot of these people are indeed going to be caught because many are Trump cultists without the slightest clue what words like ‘opsec’ and ‘comsec’ mean. I think the real danger is the already militarized groups like the proud boys and three percenters using the chaos to sneak in their own bullshit. Essentially thanks to Trump riling up his base it’s like a DDOS attack but with terrorists eating up the investigators man-hours instead of a barrage of requests consuming data capacity.

      • Mirshe@lemmy.world
        6·
        17 days ago

        Yup, this is a pretty well-known tactic, sadly. It’s effectively just paper terrorism - instead of doing the harder work of getting people incited to ACTUALLY kill people or do violence, you get them to do minor shit instead; bomb threats, assaults, etc, and use that as a smokescreen for the people who were already planning to do violence to go do violence effectively unchallenged.

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
    18·
    17 days ago

    How is disrupting a hospital even relevant? So everyone having babies, heart attacks, strokes, perforated bowels from diverticulitis, kids and adults needing appendix removal, car accident victims (like that school bus), and so much more can’t get care or receive delayed care?

    How does that help anything?

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
    13·
    17 days ago

    Terrorist and chief. We have so many more wonderful things to look forward to. The MAGA cult is terrible.