You call out Russia or China, MLs think if they regurgitate “read theory” that solves my issues with them.
You call out American liberals and how they aid fascists, you’re calling a secret Trump supporter.
You say that genocide is an evil action, liberals and Tankies will defend their favorite country’s actions because you’re a shill for the enemy if you do.
You say America did something kinda good, you’re somehow a neolib in disguise. You lightly praise the USSR, you’re Stalin’s second cousin as an AI.
I just don’t want people harmed by a government force. Fuck me, I guess? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills for applying the same morals to every politician and country, even ones I live in or slightly like.
The world thinks black and white these days. Any bit of nuance is incomprehensible for many
I have a theory that the more reasonable the political beliefs the less attention they garner and thus don’t become as popular. No one wants to have a boring conversation about things that are just objectily good. The people want discourse!
if we want anything to change we've got to do it on our own just know you're not alone
tbh like, have you tried any other social media? lemmy’s honestly pretty cool for anarchists comparatively, i suppose except for the fact that it’s too small to spend all your tine in explicitly anarchist spaces. Yeah it’s not amazing but that’s pretty nuch inevitable with any large and relatively diverse group of people
I have, lemmy is better than most. Better than most is still annoying.
Identity labels seem to be a thought-quelling mechanism. As is moralism. Complex theory needs to be approached with an intellectual and analytical mindset
What tactics were used during the Russian and Chinese revolutions? What classes and contradictions were they contending with, what hurdles did they have to overcome, and what choices did they end up making (and why)? Did these strategies achieve their intended purposes, in the short term, mid term, long term? How might those strategies play out in different circumstances?
As the complexities are dissected and analyzed, a moral analysis can also take place: what are my goals and values, and how do these tactics and their effects relate to them? Is there a discrepancy between a desired outcome and the tactics necessary to accomplish it? If so, can that be reconciled?
But naked values with no analysis are unlikely to accomplish anything, and can in fact lead to outcomes that benefit our opponents. If We Burn is a good overview of this problem in the protests around the world during the 2010s.
At the same time, people who reveal themselves to be thinking without analysis can be dismissed, be they liberals, anarchists, or MLs. But the depth of thought is the operative variable here, not the identity or category.
from what you’ve typed here, it doesn’t sound like you’re expressing very thought-out arguments.
everything is a broad stroke or a defensive sarcastic poke.
your account is only 2 weeks old and this is your first post.
I just checked your comment history, a lot of your comments look designed to antagonize people and you use broad terms like fascist a lot without adding anything relevant to the conversation.
If you comment on specific policies without coming to a knee -jerk directly insulting holistic conclusion you probably won’t be called out as often.
imagine that the people you are talking to are real people and how willing they would be to engage with your ideas if you said to a person face to face the things you are writing.
I don’t need to be kind to people who don’t care about people, or if they use me as a token in some grand strategy.
that has zero relation to my comment.
are you responding to somebody else?
What’s an ML?
Marxist-leninist
Likely referring to the lemmy.ml instance. We tend to have a reputation of being tankie.
They’re using it more broadly, for M-Ls in general.
Annoying being an anarchist (or variants, dv incoming) in life, pretty standard, every time I’ve tried, that’s your moral/ethical choice, stand by, take strength from whatever you do, and change what you can.
Get used to it, anarchists pick losing fights against the whole world
It’s cool, the whole world is about to pick a fight itself.
Too true
I don’t know if Varyk’s claim of your style of engagement is true, I haven’t looked at your comment history, so I’ll respond to what you’ve faced regardless of if you’ve attracted more disagreement than strictly needed.
Being an anarchist, and being super direct and upfront about your views, is going you get you some ire no matter where you go.
The reason is, generally speaking, you’re looking through history and systems of power with a lens that makes the problems with those other systems quite glaring.
The people who have adopted those other systems and ideologies will have already accepted the cognitive dissonance that comes with them, and they’re not going to take kindly to your nuanced opinion that makes them have to reevaluate their cognitive dissonance again. It’s much easier to dismiss or attack you instead.
Now there are ways of softening your critiques and opinions to make them less liable to attract anger, such as adopting the Mr.Rogers style, but sometimes that can be too soft, depending on the context. You’ll have to decide when that’s appropriate for yourself.
Also, bear in mind that while sometimes your viewpoints and arguments will gather hatred no matter what you do, and it can seem hopeless to express your views, as though it does no good; there are many more neutral lurkers than there are people who engage with you directly, and you’ll be having an outsized impact on that group just by having that counter arguement or viewpoint available for them to compare, which may unknowingly be changing minds for the better.
It’s hard being anything these days because actions speak a lot louder than your internal ego.
Reassess your values, then reassess your interactions with strangers.
Named self after EVD, who famously became a marxist after reading theory while stuck in prison
complains about being told to read theory
Have you tried having serious politics instead vaguely vibing with generally anti-government ideas?
Have you tried not repeating the same 5 talking points to anyone who doesn’t want to obey a state even if it’s “the people’s state”?
“We have nothing special to offer the Negro, and we cannot make separate appeals to all the races.” – Your man.
Typical cracker.
You say that genocide is an evil action, liberals and Tankies will defend their favorite country’s actions because you’re a shill for the enemy if you do.
Um, no “tankie” would be upset if you call out genocide. Are you talking about the Uyghurs? Because that’s not a genocide.
Way to prove OPs point. You guys are just ridiculous.
Where’s the evidence, cornball? Til you produce it, I’m assuming you’re either an RFA opp or that non-Chinese-speaking cornball hack Zenz himself
And before you whine that I copy-pasted this; I don’t owe you shit. This whole bullshit-assed take “ChInA gEnOcIdE” take is copy-paste ad infinitum anyway; you get what you give. If even a quarter of you crackers cared half as much that you live in a fucking slave state than about this bullshit consent-manufacture campaign you EAGERLY run for the three-letter agencies, we might’ve actually achieved full-and-true abolition by now.
Nah, you’re just a idiot that lacks basic media literacy skills and accepts western propaganda without the slightest bit of skepticism.
Ridiculous
Ok but do you actually have some kind of tangible evidence of genocide (like the thousands of pictures and videos released by Palestinians and colonisers in Gaza), or do you just believe Zenz’s conspiracy theories about census data?
You need to workshop your insult game. All bark and no bite. Ran out of ideas after calling someone “ridiculous?” Pathetic.
Instead of avoiding the issue by quibbling about definitions in order to serve authoritarianism… (standard tankie tactic)
Y’all could just oppose the overt oppression of a marginalized group.
Where’s the evidence, cornball? Til you produce it, I’m assuming you’re either an RFA opp or that non-Chinese-speaking cornball hack Zenz himself
How about you show me evidence of a genocide?
Maybe its their right to tell you your opinions suck in their eyes
Also “liberals”, using that therm for US democrat voters will make you look like a Trump supporter in the eyes of basically everyone.
I see you’ve never seen the other half of Lemmy, aka “the tankies.” They know exactly what op means by liberals and they hate them more than they hate conservatives.
Oh, ive seen lemmygrad, but i don’t count them as people.
Although they use it the same way, anyone outside the reactionary in-group.
You’re wrong, having any firm opinion is annoying on Lemmy. Everyone here is the most difficult person in their social circle and we will throw hands