I kinda don’t think this is it. She is much more likely to be one of those westerns who “doesn’t like capitalism” but then only wants welfare capitalist states called socialism.
Ok, I guess that makes a bit more sense.
I remember everyone called her a lib though. I even wrote it into my fanfic, better change it to something else…
They banned all other languages in official capacities, incorporates several nazi military formations into their armed forces, have a state funded cult of worshipping nazi collaborateurs, and their forces somehow can never be seen without wearing nazi insignia - UPA patches usually, but also Wehrmacht and SS ones, celtic crosses from time to time, slogans like “white power”, 1488 ones.
Also have banned all opposition parties, no elections, murder dissidents, derliberately killing civilians. The usual charming stuff.
The new Ukraine government was put into power by NATO, which has been expanding towards Russia. The whole war is a proxy! There would’ve been white peace long ago if NATO hadn’t continuously forced Ukraine to war. And how do you deny all those nazi symbols Ukrainian soldiers have been seen wearing?
White peace when? After the first time Russia invaded and took Crimea? Whose to say tomorrow they wouldn’t want more? If Ukraine felt the need to join NATO, it’s because of the imperialistic threat from Russia.
And there are nazis all over these days in case you didn’t notice. I’m sure those cities Russia destroyed were all just full of real Nazis!
And any times Ukraine wants to join NATO, that would absolutely be justification to remove them from Russia’s border. Nato is an absolute threat to Russian sovereignty and allowing a country to be influenced by Nato on their boarder is a threat to the Russian people.
Nothing wrong with supporting Ukraine when it comes to the war itself, but supporting Zelinski beyond that is a bad look since he’s displayed significant authoritarian tendencies with actions democratic countries would normally condemn, such as instituting mandatory military service for all men without any exceptions, banning opposition parties under false pretenses and possibly prolonging the war in favor of a costly (not least in terms of human lives) and probably impossible to achieve aim of decisive victory rather than negotiated peace.
Add to that the fact that the NATO presently in a symbiotic propaganda relationship with Zelinski isn’t the automatically correct peacekeeping force that it has mostly been portrayed as in Western media, but rather an enforcer of military and economic imperialism that bear some (but of course not the majority, nobody forced Putin to invade) of the blame for starting the war as their broken promises to not expand east was part of the reason why the christofascist dictator wrongly decided that an invasion was justified if not downright necessary.
There’s your explanation why having an amicable meeting with Zelinski doesn’t gel with being left wing and anticapitalist. It’ll probably be hated by most for not painting either side as pure as the driven snow and automatically correct about everything, but that’s just how it is 🤷
Kind of weird given that last week she was just supporting Ukraine. I’m confused right now. Like, Wagner coup level confused.
Wdym, there are plenty of ultras that hate Russia and also capitalism in general
I kinda don’t think this is it. She is much more likely to be one of those westerns who “doesn’t like capitalism” but then only wants welfare capitalist states called socialism.
Ok, I guess that makes a bit more sense. I remember everyone called her a lib though. I even wrote it into my fanfic, better change it to something else…
Also can you guys explain this to me? https://lemmy.ml/post/1181911 (it’s a lemmy link but it’s from lemmygrad)
I’m sure I’m in for a fun ride with this question, but what’s wrong with supporting Ukraine?
Like as opposed to what, Russia?
nazis. also USA.
Oh yes the nazis, classic. Ok just wondering if you people actually had something to say.
You’re talking about it as if it’s not true.
You’re right, I am.
They banned all other languages in official capacities, incorporates several nazi military formations into their armed forces, have a state funded cult of worshipping nazi collaborateurs, and their forces somehow can never be seen without wearing nazi insignia - UPA patches usually, but also Wehrmacht and SS ones, celtic crosses from time to time, slogans like “white power”, 1488 ones.
Also have banned all opposition parties, no elections, murder dissidents, derliberately killing civilians. The usual charming stuff.
The new Ukraine government was put into power by NATO, which has been expanding towards Russia. The whole war is a proxy! There would’ve been white peace long ago if NATO hadn’t continuously forced Ukraine to war. And how do you deny all those nazi symbols Ukrainian soldiers have been seen wearing?
White peace when? After the first time Russia invaded and took Crimea? Whose to say tomorrow they wouldn’t want more? If Ukraine felt the need to join NATO, it’s because of the imperialistic threat from Russia.
And there are nazis all over these days in case you didn’t notice. I’m sure those cities Russia destroyed were all just full of real Nazis!
And any times Ukraine wants to join NATO, that would absolutely be justification to remove them from Russia’s border. Nato is an absolute threat to Russian sovereignty and allowing a country to be influenced by Nato on their boarder is a threat to the Russian people.
Nothing wrong with supporting Ukraine when it comes to the war itself, but supporting Zelinski beyond that is a bad look since he’s displayed significant authoritarian tendencies with actions democratic countries would normally condemn, such as instituting mandatory military service for all men without any exceptions, banning opposition parties under false pretenses and possibly prolonging the war in favor of a costly (not least in terms of human lives) and probably impossible to achieve aim of decisive victory rather than negotiated peace.
Add to that the fact that the NATO presently in a symbiotic propaganda relationship with Zelinski isn’t the automatically correct peacekeeping force that it has mostly been portrayed as in Western media, but rather an enforcer of military and economic imperialism that bear some (but of course not the majority, nobody forced Putin to invade) of the blame for starting the war as their broken promises to not expand east was part of the reason why the christofascist dictator wrongly decided that an invasion was justified if not downright necessary.
There’s your explanation why having an amicable meeting with Zelinski doesn’t gel with being left wing and anticapitalist. It’ll probably be hated by most for not painting either side as pure as the driven snow and automatically correct about everything, but that’s just how it is 🤷