• bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Sure bud, it’s literally explicitly haram to make, ship, handle, and sell intoxicants. Doesn’t matter who the end user is. Don’t think for a second that this is something that “Muslims” excuse.

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        1 year ago

        Anytime, I’ve noticed that the level of misinformation on Muslims is way higher on Lemmy that it was on Reddit 😞

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          Reddit taught me that correcting people on misinformation on Islam is a waste of time. I remember an argument I had with some dickhead where he called me “bonkers” for being Muslim, citing only the most inhumane behaviors and mindests that could loosely be attributed to the faith

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            In the same sentence they’ll go from acknowledging that muslim != extremist, right back to generalizing about the whole belief system.

            I just wish they’d fucking internalize some of the lessons they’re given and allow it to temper their bigotry.

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      1 year ago

      Interesting, but the piece says wine in English, not intoxicants. Is Wine not correct translation?

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        The Arabic term used in that Hadith is ‘Khamr’, which is a catch-all term for intoxicant (defined as something that clouds the mind/judgement in Islam). In that time period, the most common khamr was wine/alcohol which is why it mentions pressing [grapes]. This is further clarified in other Ahadith Like this one. This is a common issue when translating classical Arabic, as a lot of common terms back then are not as specific as our modern terms and cannot easily be translated 1:1.

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          OK, to bad the translation doesn’t reflect that better.

          With religious texts there are often a great deal of interpretation, so whether it is used for good or bad often depends on interpretation.

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          OK I see it is in the next paragraph, I just didn’t read on the first time.