• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    You’re talking at me, lying to me and trying to dictate reality to me.

    Let’s say someone actually wanted to help you. Let’s say they truly believed that going outside and interacting with people in person would do you good. How should such a person express their feelings and try to help while acknowledging you, respecting your humanity, and treating you as of equal value as a human?

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      10 months ago

      They wouldn’t last long enough - they’d be murdered, or at least disabled, by the other narcissists in society. Such a person would be an obvious “freak” and face the exact same “punishment” as I have faced my entire life - except they don’t have the experience that I do, and fall for one of their cons. That’s when they’d be killed.

      Narcissists rule this planet with an iron fist. There is no escape, and no effective counter.

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        10 months ago

        I would like to act like such a person. How would I do that? (I do want to help you, but I don’t think you would believe me)

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            10 months ago

            Thank you. But I don’t feel the urge to commit suicide. I don’t think the hypothetical person would either.

            How would you like me to talk to you?

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              10 months ago

              I don’t want you to talk to me - I want you to listen to me and internalize what I teach you. Saying anything back is simply the petulant resistance of a child that won’t eat their vegetables.

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                10 months ago

                I am listening to you. But I don’t think you want to listen to me.

                Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

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                  I don’t think you want to listen to me.

                  Why would I? All you’d do is tell me lies, or otherwise speak in bad faith with intent to harm.

                  Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

                  NO! The entire goddamned point is that I refuse to be dominated by you - that includes my mind. My mind is off limits - ONLY I can change it. Every attempt anyone else makes to change it is interpreted as an attempt to brainwash - equivalent to assault.

                  Only actions matter - but the time to act was over forty years ago. Waiting until I am the edge of death to act is itself an act of bad faith.

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                    If there’s absolutely nothing I can do to convince you, it isn’t a logical argument you’re going with. It’s a philosophical or emotional one. Logical evidence based arguments would change if compelling contrary evidence was provided.