If applauding the Waffen SS was wrong then surely giving weapons to Azov was wrong?
They didn’t just give them weapons. They trained them in Canada.
Also, let’s not forget:
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Canada has been actively importing Nazis since the 50s (and Trudeau’s father signed off on it too)
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The Canadian minister of finance is the granddaughter of an actual Nazi and proud of it.
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Canada has been instrumental in pushing the Uyghur genocide narrative
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Canada has been instrumental in pushing the Tibetan genocide narrative and had financed the Tibetan monk uprising in 1959
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Canada is littered with hundreds of Nazi memorials, including several to Stepan Bandera
Comrade, have you got any source to spare on Canada’s finance of the Tibetan contra revolution?
There is a lot to talk about here.
On the Tibetan uprising:
The major funder and organizer of the Tibetan uprising was the CIA. This is well-documented by now, and the CIA/USA are openly proud of it (e.g. infuriating but very informative reads on this: https://www.amazon.com/CIAs-Secret-Tibet-Modern-Studies/dp/0700617884, https://www.jstor.org/stable/26925943)
The Tibetan guerilla groups requested help from the CIA since 1957, but the CIA was reluctant to help them at first. They then turned to other Western nations. By this point, Canada had already started its Nazi importation programs, in efforts to use foreign anti-communists to combat the rising domestic socialist movement. When China had re-acquired Tibet in 1950, many monks started fleeing to the West, including Canada, through this program (https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/the-house-of-anti-communists-and-the-nazi-monster-it-spawned). Eventually, many of the monks who had left Tibet to India would resettle in Canada. The Tibetans joined an existing anti-China community in Canada, created by repatriated KMT fighters and politicians.
Through this community in Canada, the Tibetan guerilla groups raised funds, and made connections with the Canadian government, and it was through them that they initially established contact with the CIA. The Canadian government was a happy intermediary during this period.
After the uprising, the Canadian government was at the forefront of accusing China on how it handled Tibet. This is the earliest example I know of, where a Canadian-based NGO publishes a “study” on human rights violations in Tibet.
On genocide narratives
Take a look at these Canada-based organizations.
https://canadatibet.com/about/
These are all cut-outs of CIA and CIA-affiliated organizations, based in Canada and employing Canadian lobbyists (The last one was established by this Canadian NGO: https://www.raoulwallenbergcentre.org/en/).
The strategy is simple: The US issues accusations. Then Canada and Canadian-based NGOs back them up. Why Canada? Because that gives the illusion that the issue is not an excuse to conduct US foreign policy, but rather a legitimate issue of human rights violations.
A good break down of how the Uyghur genocide narrative was created through this method is documented by The Grayzone: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/03/17/report-uyghur-genocide-sham-university-neocon-punish-china/ (pay attention to the last segment of the article talking about Canadian involvement).
The Canadian parliament and the Canadian delegation to the UN are constantly making proclamations about Uyghur and Tibetan genocides:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/canadian-mps-deem-china-s-actions-vs-uyghurs-genocide-/2014654
honestly you should consider making this its own post, really high quality
Thank you for the juicy sources comrade.
I would really appreciate some resources on Canada involvement in Tibet/Uyghur topics, too
See my comment above (https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2448878)
Thank you, Comerade. I will look them up at work today.
Trudeau’s *adoptive father. His real father is spinning in his grave back in Cuba.
Canada also enjoys trampling on one of the only slave nations in history to win its own freedom through rebellion and revolt, Haiti. To this day they continue to fuck their shit up and make sure they cannot progress.
and Trudeau’s father signed off on it too
Fidel would never
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This terrible mistake is being politicized by Russia
Holy shit, pleeease just stop thinking about how much the Canadian government supports NazisTo the Canadian mind, not being allowed to slink away from the consequences of their actions with a meaningless apology is the worst thing on Earth.
It’s how we solved the Indigenous rights problem! We just said “Hey sorry aboot that genocide eh?”
Mind you, if they didn’t accept that we sent the RCMP in to shoot them so their land can be used for more pipelines. But that’s not authoritarian of course, because only Russians and Chinese are authoritarian. Did you know that authoritarianism is actually Latin for “Russians and Chinese”?
He even looks kinda like him lol
I said SOOOORY what do you people want?
Canadians when they find out that “sorry” is not a magic spell that stops other people from criticizing them:
The chemicals in black face paint have been clinically shown to degrade neural tissue.
this seems dumb as hell to us, because we know better.
but a lot of liberals are thinkn’t enough to see this, and just go with it.
“thinkn’t” might be my new favourite word
Yeah but people in various civil service positions around the world aren’t blind to this. Average liberal american? Sure. People working in politics? Everyone sees what’s happening here, and that can matter when it comes to the realignment.
Out of everyone there applauding that man, Chrystia Freeland was the one to know the most about his past. Not only because of her granddaddy but also her fucking degree in Ukrainian history (I don’t remember the exact name of it but she’s well educated). She was smiling the most, positively beaming as she gazed at that Nazi in parliament. She has yet to speak about it properly.
thinkn’t
*LATEST FAD
just remembered that time on
when they all suddenly started saying okn’t and yesn’t and thinking it’s actually funny
He hasn’t. He knows he can get away with any amount of Nazi support just by spouting some liberal bullshit line about democracy and redirecting the people’s animosity towards Russians, which everyone in the West seems to be indoctrinated into hating without a single critical thought.
parenti quote
The quote
In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.
– Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds
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That whole book is a certified banger
That is a pretty sweet trick
Liberals are on the defensive and Conservatives are using this blunder to their advantage even though they were clapping too.
I did not have “liberals openly support a nazi and conservatives are the ones saying that is a bad thing (while also supporting them)” on my 2023 bingo card.
It was on mine. Nazis the lot of 'em.
Conservative liberals can be less susceptible than progressive liberals to being duped about this kind of thing because they’re well into their nationalism and remember which side their country ostensibly fought on during WWII; i.e. against the Nazis. So they can see open support for Nazis as betrayal of ‘what we fought for’ (even though we weren’t born). Maybe it depends on the country.
Progressive libs, on the other hand, like to get sucked in to giving the appearance of being ‘on the good side’. Do they blow in the wind.
Sometimes, if you can find a way to suspend conservatives’ bigotry for long enough to talk about history and economics, they can skip the progressive liberalism all together and go straight to communist. Not all of them, of course.
I suppose my point is that we can’t rely on a spectrum where progressives are closer to communists than conservatives. They’re all a big fluid blob of reactionary.
They play to the myth that the Nazis were socialists. Their base believes it because to them liberals are socialists.
Its best when you think of these parties as opportunist / opposition foils in a theatre play. Bourgeois democracy isn’t much more than a reality TV show with the script written by their capitalist puppetmasters.
Get me out of this weird, weird world
Trudolf
Nice
i needed that laugh
I just spit my drink out
Blackface I could forgive, but this mockery of German heritage is unforgivable! - libs probably
Clapping for nazis: not political
Publicizing the fuckup: political
:trudeau-blackface:
We really should have a :trudeau-blackface: emote
They are just dipping their little fascist toes in the water. They will try again and fascism will be accepted. In fact, we already have people sayings Nazis weren’t that bad and Russians were worse, blah blah blah. This was a test.
The war in Ukraine has managed to rehabilitate and mainstream fascist ideology in a way that the Charlottesville goobers could have only wished for. Harm reduction my asshair
The war didn’t rehabilitate Nazis. US and the West have been trying to rehabilitate nazism since the cold War era , after 1990s they got a full fledged dominance over media, culture and narrative. Remember Timothy snyder bloodlands, Anne applebuam and etc. They are Russophobic writers spreading anti communism and anti Russia sentiment throughout 2010s. The war just exposed the pro Nazi sentiment of the west and the anti Russia narrative that is dominant in the Atlantic states.
The analogy I use is that the war in Ukraine just turned up the heat and pressure on the west, causing them to become even more concentrated in what they already were. They are a pot of sea water brought to a boil, getting saltier and saltier
West didn’t do anything special. Westerners are mostly gullible and ignorant people . Westerners cheered on when US bombed Iraq as if it was some heroic action against a great evil, obviously they were outraged when Osama dared to bomb US which US did it for years and years. Westerners don’t do introspection or critical thinking. That’s why US propaganda is so effective. US just had to say Putin invaded to restore USSR and all western libs cried like anything for ukraine. Nazism is a part of western culture. All the movies be it enemy of the gates, video games, dehumanizes Soviet Union and equated it to 3rd Reich. They know the liberal psychology very well.
Libs went from “punch a fascist! all cops are bastards! free the kids in cages!” to “slava ukraini, slava bandera. Defunding cops is a Republican idea. They are detention centers and are necessary.”
Fucking sheepdogs
“Mistake”
Will the ordinary public really fall for this shit?
Already has it seems
They already have. The Liberal Party and their supporters are on the super defensive to the point where they are explicitly defending Nazis while the Conservatives are using this incident to their advantage to continue their attacks. It’s just a straight up shit show.
This is embarrassing.
“We fucked up.” It’s not hard. Blame the intern who invited the first Ukranian of the right age they could find without doing any background on him.
Except they said “Fought the Russians in WW2” and then everyone clapped. Not one person stopped and thought about it, or threw a jeer.
Trudeau and Zelenskyy had a 1-on-1 private chat with him before the meeting too, and it’s documented in photos by Hunka’s own granddaughter on social media
Except they said “Fought the Russians in WW2” and then everyone clapped. Not one person stopped and thought about it, or threw a jeer.
Historical ignorance is not an obstacle for attaining a leadership position in many countries. It probably helps.
The eastern front of WWII was a three-day fight between Nazis(bad, totalitarian), Russians(bad, totalitarian, communist) and freedom-loving Ukrainian pro-democracy fighters (wholesome chungus)
Not one person stopped and thought about it
they’re members of parliament they haven’t had a thought that wasn’t focus grouped in years
Evil Russians are spreading false propaganda about us by stating established facts about what we actually did.
