The mayor’s office says it would be the first major U.S. city to enact such a plan.

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    So you agree that a non-capitalistic solution would help. That doesn’t sound like capitalism is a success if you have to do something else sometimes.

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      What’s the success rate on full socialist and communist grocery stores?

      Now here it comes. Say the line Bart, say the line. I can’t wait for you to tell me how socialism has never really been tried.

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        As far as I know, socialization of grocery stores has never been tried. Why not try it instead of letting people go hungry, including children? Seems like it’s worth trying to avoid that.

        By the way, if capitalism is such a resounding success, why am I in debt thousands of dollars due to medical bills and my wife in debt even more due to student loans? We have decent jobs. We’re middle class. We own a house. We’ve paid off one of our two cars. And we’re drowning. In “successful” capitalism.

        We’re far from alone.

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            USSR had an economic system that is best described as state capitalism, and the political system was an authoritarian dictatorship. Grocery stores weren’t socialized - as in, being run and operated by the collective communities, but operated in full by the state, and members of community had absolutely zero say in anything.

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            The USSR literally had government-run supermarkets in food deserts? Are you sure they were just in food deserts? Because I don’t think that’s correct.

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          I guess the food lines of the countries that have failed don’t count right? Right?

          Keep on moving those goal posts lol. I said 1 very specific thing and of course you are here now talking about loans because you seemingly just want to argue capitalism instead of addressing the comment.

          Classic reddit bullshit.

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            Which countries are those which have a basic capitalist system but socialized grocery stores in food deserts? Please name them.

            And yes, I want to argue about capitalism with someone who claims capitalism is a success when it’s ground me and my family into the dirt along with so many others.

            Must be nice to be rich.

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                  Israel had it’s run, USSR, Venezuela, fuck India had a few good long years with it. Every single one had food programs and every single one failed.

                  Now, say the line Bart.

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                    I didn’t say food programs. I said government-run supermarkets in food deserts. You are moving the goalposts. And if you call me a name one more time, I’ll just block you. I don’t countenance Reddit behavior.

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        The problem with the communist food systems was that they sought to eliminate waste, rather than promoting the sort of over-production that generates it. They planned to feed their people, and their plans regularly came up short.

        The socialized component of the US system specifically seeks excessive production, well beyond any likely shortages. We deliberately try to waste food.