One pollster sees “flashing red” signs on youth turnout as Gen Z and millennial voters, who are not satisfied with either party, could again play a decisive role in the next election.
They don’t vote trump, they just don’t vote. The Democrats continue to push candidates who are so old and out of touch that younger voters don’t see them as in any way preferable to literal Nazis. Think about that for a minute, there is a group of voters who see the level of disconnect the Democratic party has with its voters as an equal evil to actual Nazis. Given that our left wing is actually a right wing central sort of party, and both parties are suckling at the teet of big business, giving tax breaks to billionaires while younger generations can’t afford apartments… I see how they have gotten to this conclusion.
Think about that for a minute, there is a group of voters who see the level of disconnect the Democratic party has with its voters as an equal evil to actual Nazis.
I honestly can’t see how this is an indictment on Democrats. If someone believes the disconnect that Democrats have with young people is an evil equivalent to Nazis, that’s very telling of that person. There is no misunderstanding or poor communication in history that could be on the same level of evil as Nazis.
And before you go there, you know better than to expect anyone here to buy the “he didn’t call for the eradication of trans people, Just trans ideology” shit. Either proposition requires trans people to not exist in public, and the latter requires eradication of the mere idea that trans people exist at all. That’s not an improvement. That’s nazi shit.
Thank you for the illustration of how monstrous bigotry can be expressed using only civil language. reddit demonstrated that an overemphasis on civil language often resulted in an environment where “be civil” meant “don’t sass the nazis.” I hope lemmy remains better than reddit in this aspect.
On Lemmy it’s entirely up to the moderators of any given instance or community. Some instances are fiercely anti-censorship. Some will have a more restrictive approach. We can always create new instances and communities, and vote with our engagement.
They’re getting pretty fucking close to literally being Nazis. They condem social welfare, call opponents pedophiles, lie and cheat, are actively trying to disenfranchise voters and dismantle democracy. The GOP has put business interests above human interests at every turn, they use antisemitic dog whistles, use physical violence to attack political opponents, they’re anti intellectual on every level, anti immigration, anti ethnic minority. I really don’t know where you come off thinking they’re not Fascists, but maybe you’d care to elaborate?
I remember the GOP used to be the party of family values and fiscal responsibility. Now they’re just obstructionist. What meaningful legislation has GOP introduced that would benefit anyone but their own business interests?
God is real. Jesus was a socialist hippy. He preached love, forgiveness, and tolerance. Jesus condemned money traders in the court of the temple. He would be chase by a Lynch mob, called an Arabic terrorists, and probably shot by contemporary Christian conservatives.
What’s your point? Please elaborate as to what ‘reality’ you are referring to. Sounds like you aren’t a Christian as much as you are a cult member.
“If you’re against the Anti-Grooming Bill, you are probably a groomer or at least you don’t denounce the grooming of four 8-year-old children,” wrote Ron DeSantis’s press secretary Christina Pushaw on Twitter.
US Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene proclaimed “the Democrats are the party of pedophiles,” adding that "either you are pro-pedophile and pro-transgender biological men or you defend children and women.”
Greene’s comments might be dismissed as the ravings of a crank if the rightwing weren’t united behind her. The moral panic over child porn extends from the lowliest 8chan poster to the halls of the United States Senate. The GOP is tapping into the energy of the QAnon base by repackaging their entire domestic agenda, from education policy to Supreme Court confirmations, as a crusade against pedophilia.
What the? How did you whataboutism this about guns?
The GOP has been on the warpath against the LGBT for a while now. This is a fact that stands independent of the gun debate.
Oh and i am a liberal that fully supports the LGBT and every minority in this country having a weapon. They need a means to protect themselves since the government has decided to not defend them and “conservatives” have decided to murder them.
If I was poor I’d focus on having enough money to pay the bills instead of buying a Deagle every 6 months or whatever. Their argument is baseless and they have no point. It also has cero to do with LGBT anyways. I dislike these republitards immensely.
That might have been a valid concern in the early 1940s, but nowadays I think people can understand that “Nazi” is just a generic term for fascist scumbags
Hi. Your side literally shared a meme of a stolen cartoon frog wearing Trump’s hair and dressed in a Nazi SS Uniform, lining up politicians on our side to be sent to a very obvious gas chamber.
Piss off with that nonsense. Any Republican who isn’t a literal Nazi is no longer a Republican at this point.
That’s the neat part, they don’t most of the time. But people get this idea that “well if they are not voting Biden then they are voting trump” then go shock pikachu when the numbers of those who don’t vote come out. We ignore it or blame it on the youth for being stupid and then we repeat the mistakes. Because that’s easier then dealing with the cognitive dissonance
And even if not voting and making it easier for the greater evil to win IS stupid, that’s not an excuse! Stupid people are a core Republican constituency, but they do the work to trigger them to go vote.
So sure, let’s say young people are stupid. What are you going to do about it? Because complaining about how they didn’t be not-stupid isn’t getting any more votes.
Because they figure if the fan the flames they firefighters might come sooner.
Honeslty that is what drives a considerable amount of the Trump base, they want ‘the end’ to come sooner than later and they know voting in Trump will make it happen. A consider amount of people seriously fantasize about society collapsing because it makes them feel like they are empowered/especial/superior to the ‘sheep’. Like preppers.
I myself felt this urge during 2016. I was so pissed off at the Democrats I seriously considered voting for Trump as an F you to the democrats for their shitty status quo policy making and their inability to have a charismatic leader who actually gets shit done instead of making excuses like Obama did for 8 years.
Say what you want about Republicans being evil or whatever, but they get shit done. They get their legislation passed, and their judges appointed.
Which is a weird sentiment because the only natural outcome for the accelerationist views is either a fascist takeover or a popular revolution. We can all imagine how and what happens with the former. With a revolution you have groups of people with at least 2 very different ideas of what the country should be post-revolution. You have the far right Trump supporters who hate government and want a collapse; who will all almost certainly die or as Huffman put it “become slaves”. Then you have the far left who want to reform government to be actually democratic and fair (some of those probably want actual communism as well, which is it’s own schism).
So unsure how accelerationists who want a revolution figure this out. Even if a popular revolution worked, it would immediately break down into partisan fighting.
Accelerationists are like Huffman in that they think they’ll personally be fine and able to lead a political revolution from the ashes. They think they’re flameproof.
Say what you want about Republicans being evil or whatever, but they get shit done. They get their legislation passed, and their judges appointed.
Trump and McConnell had a house supermajority and yet couldn’t even abolish Obamacare. The fact that you believe that they get things done is actually you believing carefully crafted propaganda.
How can people who would vote Dem, but don’t really like Biden go TRUMP? That make no sense. But then again 'Merica
They don’t vote trump, they just don’t vote. The Democrats continue to push candidates who are so old and out of touch that younger voters don’t see them as in any way preferable to literal Nazis. Think about that for a minute, there is a group of voters who see the level of disconnect the Democratic party has with its voters as an equal evil to actual Nazis. Given that our left wing is actually a right wing central sort of party, and both parties are suckling at the teet of big business, giving tax breaks to billionaires while younger generations can’t afford apartments… I see how they have gotten to this conclusion.
I honestly can’t see how this is an indictment on Democrats. If someone believes the disconnect that Democrats have with young people is an evil equivalent to Nazis, that’s very telling of that person. There is no misunderstanding or poor communication in history that could be on the same level of evil as Nazis.
I agree, but Republicans aren’t literal Nazis. Stop overusing the term, just adds confusion when real Nazis come up.
Republicans are openly cheering for eradicating vulnerable minorities.
Really? Who?
Michael Knowles said it at CPAC. His conservative audience cheered.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/
And before you go there, you know better than to expect anyone here to buy the “he didn’t call for the eradication of trans people, Just trans ideology” shit. Either proposition requires trans people to not exist in public, and the latter requires eradication of the mere idea that trans people exist at all. That’s not an improvement. That’s nazi shit.
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Thank you for the illustration of how monstrous bigotry can be expressed using only civil language. reddit demonstrated that an overemphasis on civil language often resulted in an environment where “be civil” meant “don’t sass the nazis.” I hope lemmy remains better than reddit in this aspect.
On Lemmy it’s entirely up to the moderators of any given instance or community. Some instances are fiercely anti-censorship. Some will have a more restrictive approach. We can always create new instances and communities, and vote with our engagement.
Hooray for decentralization and federation.
Please move to exploding heads with the rest of the fuckwits and apologists so you’re easier to block.
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They’re getting pretty fucking close to literally being Nazis. They condem social welfare, call opponents pedophiles, lie and cheat, are actively trying to disenfranchise voters and dismantle democracy. The GOP has put business interests above human interests at every turn, they use antisemitic dog whistles, use physical violence to attack political opponents, they’re anti intellectual on every level, anti immigration, anti ethnic minority. I really don’t know where you come off thinking they’re not Fascists, but maybe you’d care to elaborate?
I remember the GOP used to be the party of family values and fiscal responsibility. Now they’re just obstructionist. What meaningful legislation has GOP introduced that would benefit anyone but their own business interests?
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Care to elaborate?
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God is real. Jesus was a socialist hippy. He preached love, forgiveness, and tolerance. Jesus condemned money traders in the court of the temple. He would be chase by a Lynch mob, called an Arabic terrorists, and probably shot by contemporary Christian conservatives.
What’s your point? Please elaborate as to what ‘reality’ you are referring to. Sounds like you aren’t a Christian as much as you are a cult member.
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Isn’t that just Elon Musk, and he’s not GOP, afaik
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“If you’re against the Anti-Grooming Bill, you are probably a groomer or at least you don’t denounce the grooming of four 8-year-old children,” wrote Ron DeSantis’s press secretary Christina Pushaw on Twitter.
US Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene proclaimed “the Democrats are the party of pedophiles,” adding that "either you are pro-pedophile and pro-transgender biological men or you defend children and women.”
Greene’s comments might be dismissed as the ravings of a crank if the rightwing weren’t united behind her. The moral panic over child porn extends from the lowliest 8chan poster to the halls of the United States Senate. The GOP is tapping into the energy of the QAnon base by repackaging their entire domestic agenda, from education policy to Supreme Court confirmations, as a crusade against pedophilia.
Source: https://www.alternet.org/2022/04/republicans-enemies-pedophiles-stochastic-terrorism
I mean if your against an anti-pedo bill, you’re probably pro-pedo.
Funny because GOP notoriously vote AGAINST banning child marriage.
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If I write a bill that says conservatives are pedophiles and then Republicans vote against it, are Republicans pro pedophile?
More children have been sexually abused in a church than by gay people, but I don’t see the GOP lining up to make bills on that.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/07/elon-musk-vote-republican-congress-midterms-twitter-independents/
Shithead’s sure stumping for GQP…
I will when they stop trying to systematically erase minorities and LGBT people
Who wants to do that? The people who are trying to pass laws to disarm poor people?
What the? How did you whataboutism this about guns?
The GOP has been on the warpath against the LGBT for a while now. This is a fact that stands independent of the gun debate.
Oh and i am a liberal that fully supports the LGBT and every minority in this country having a weapon. They need a means to protect themselves since the government has decided to not defend them and “conservatives” have decided to murder them.
Yeah, because the second amendment is exactly what impoverished people need right now
/s
If I was poor I’d focus on having enough money to pay the bills instead of buying a Deagle every 6 months or whatever. Their argument is baseless and they have no point. It also has cero to do with LGBT anyways. I dislike these republitards immensely.
That might have been a valid concern in the early 1940s, but nowadays I think people can understand that “Nazi” is just a generic term for fascist scumbags
Hi. Your side literally shared a meme of a stolen cartoon frog wearing Trump’s hair and dressed in a Nazi SS Uniform, lining up politicians on our side to be sent to a very obvious gas chamber.
Piss off with that nonsense. Any Republican who isn’t a literal Nazi is no longer a Republican at this point.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/06/16/silence-no-answer-to-neo-nazi-displays-letters-to-the-editor/ ?
That’s the neat part, they don’t most of the time. But people get this idea that “well if they are not voting Biden then they are voting trump” then go shock pikachu when the numbers of those who don’t vote come out. We ignore it or blame it on the youth for being stupid and then we repeat the mistakes. Because that’s easier then dealing with the cognitive dissonance
And even if not voting and making it easier for the greater evil to win IS stupid, that’s not an excuse! Stupid people are a core Republican constituency, but they do the work to trigger them to go vote.
So sure, let’s say young people are stupid. What are you going to do about it? Because complaining about how they didn’t be not-stupid isn’t getting any more votes.
Yeah I don’t buy it. I might get angry enough to just stay home (might not likely) but that is a bridge too far.
Because they figure if the fan the flames they firefighters might come sooner.
Honeslty that is what drives a considerable amount of the Trump base, they want ‘the end’ to come sooner than later and they know voting in Trump will make it happen. A consider amount of people seriously fantasize about society collapsing because it makes them feel like they are empowered/especial/superior to the ‘sheep’. Like preppers.
I myself felt this urge during 2016. I was so pissed off at the Democrats I seriously considered voting for Trump as an F you to the democrats for their shitty status quo policy making and their inability to have a charismatic leader who actually gets shit done instead of making excuses like Obama did for 8 years.
Say what you want about Republicans being evil or whatever, but they get shit done. They get their legislation passed, and their judges appointed.
Which is a weird sentiment because the only natural outcome for the accelerationist views is either a fascist takeover or a popular revolution. We can all imagine how and what happens with the former. With a revolution you have groups of people with at least 2 very different ideas of what the country should be post-revolution. You have the far right Trump supporters who hate government and want a collapse; who will all almost certainly die or as Huffman put it “become slaves”. Then you have the far left who want to reform government to be actually democratic and fair (some of those probably want actual communism as well, which is it’s own schism).
So unsure how accelerationists who want a revolution figure this out. Even if a popular revolution worked, it would immediately break down into partisan fighting.
Accelerationists are like Huffman in that they think they’ll personally be fine and able to lead a political revolution from the ashes. They think they’re flameproof.
Trump and McConnell had a house supermajority and yet couldn’t even abolish Obamacare. The fact that you believe that they get things done is actually you believing carefully crafted propaganda.
And they have to keep changing the rules at the last minute to do it.
How could anyone vote for either of these pricks?