One pollster sees “flashing red” signs on youth turnout as Gen Z and millennial voters, who are not satisfied with either party, could again play a decisive role in the next election.
Lol its amazing people can say shit like this with a straight face after Bernie. The democratic party said “no fuck you, its us or trump take your slightly socialist dude and fuck off” and a lot of young people did. Thankfully a lot of them took their work in politics and moved it to labor organizing, but please miss me with the “young people just need to get involved” shit when it has proven that any time they do, they get slapped down by said establishment dems. Systematic problems need systematic solutions. If “go vote blue no matter what” spent just as much energy fighting against systematic barriers to voting like gerrymandering, days off, mail in ballots, etc as they did finger wagging and yelling at younger people (cause you know, that’ll help) we might be somewhere different.
Don’t even get me started on the fact that we need more then voting.
Let me preface this by saying I’m 28 – I’m in the “young person” category. Young people have no one to blame but themselves.
Let’s first agree that if 60-80% of young people voted, it wouldn’t matter what other Democrats thought. What the young voters wanted would overwhelmingly win, no matter what attempts there were or weren’t to hamper Bernie.
Bernie’s campaign had a clear goal and argument for victory – turn out young people and disaffected blue collar workers in numbers never seen before. This group would easily win against any candidate, Democrat or Republican.
“Have we been as successful as I would hope in bringing young people in?” Sanders remarked at a news conference in Burlington, Vt., after his disappointing Super Tuesday performance. “And the answer is no, we’re making some progress.”
“It is not easy,” he added about mobilizing young voters.
Do you know what the takeaway is from this? “It doesn’t matter if you offer young people everything they want. They will won’t get out and vote.” Young people have no one else they can blame for this.
I want to see progressive progress, and I’m guessing you do too. We can’t do that by pointing to the DNC as the culprit if all of our issues. There were mistakes that we need to correct and we need to reengage with the public to see why messages didn’t land. Otherwise you’re just going to say in another 4 years that the DNC rigged it against progressives again, because you changed nothing but expected a different outcome.
Lol its amazing people can say shit like this with a straight face after Bernie. The democratic party said “no fuck you, its us or trump take your slightly socialist dude and fuck off” and a lot of young people did. Thankfully a lot of them took their work in politics and moved it to labor organizing, but please miss me with the “young people just need to get involved” shit when it has proven that any time they do, they get slapped down by said establishment dems. Systematic problems need systematic solutions. If “go vote blue no matter what” spent just as much energy fighting against systematic barriers to voting like gerrymandering, days off, mail in ballots, etc as they did finger wagging and yelling at younger people (cause you know, that’ll help) we might be somewhere different.
Don’t even get me started on the fact that we need more then voting.
IMO labor action is more effective and important than electoral action
Let me preface this by saying I’m 28 – I’m in the “young person” category. Young people have no one to blame but themselves.
Let’s first agree that if 60-80% of young people voted, it wouldn’t matter what other Democrats thought. What the young voters wanted would overwhelmingly win, no matter what attempts there were or weren’t to hamper Bernie.
Bernie’s campaign had a clear goal and argument for victory – turn out young people and disaffected blue collar workers in numbers never seen before. This group would easily win against any candidate, Democrat or Republican.
But that didn’t happen. Bernie offered student loan forgiveness, free college, free weed, universal and free healthcare, and drastic climate actions. And that still wasn’t enough to turn out the youth vote. I don’t know what else he could possibly offer to get more young people voting. Don’t believe me? Take it from Bernie himself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/powerup/2020/03/05/powerup-young-voters-are-turning-out-in-lower-numbers-than-bernie-sanders-expected/5e6018d6602ff10d49ac2c83/
“Have we been as successful as I would hope in bringing young people in?” Sanders remarked at a news conference in Burlington, Vt., after his disappointing Super Tuesday performance. “And the answer is no, we’re making some progress.” “It is not easy,” he added about mobilizing young voters.
Do you know what the takeaway is from this? “It doesn’t matter if you offer young people everything they want. They will won’t get out and vote.” Young people have no one else they can blame for this.
I want to see progressive progress, and I’m guessing you do too. We can’t do that by pointing to the DNC as the culprit if all of our issues. There were mistakes that we need to correct and we need to reengage with the public to see why messages didn’t land. Otherwise you’re just going to say in another 4 years that the DNC rigged it against progressives again, because you changed nothing but expected a different outcome.
I can’t tell if you didn’t read my whole comment, or just didn’t understand it…