• SbisasCostlyTurnover@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    When did I say people aren’t playing the system? I said it’s massively overestimated given the numbers of people that aren’t playing the system.

    And welfare spending also includes Pensions. It’s also by far and away the largest portion of that pie. Maybe we could take the state pension away from people who already have a nice cushty private pension and distribute that percentage back to people who aren’t in a position to retire at all?

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      1 year ago

      When you said like 15 people are abusing the system. There are millions out there and you know it.

      Yes scrap the triple lock as well, it’s a load of bollocks too.

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        1 year ago

        There are millions out there and you know it.

        I don’t know it. Can you show any kind of proof?

        For the record, it seems like ~10 million people aren’t working who are of working age in the UK. If it’s millions, it would mean that at least 1 in 5 people not working abuses the system. Do you really think it’s that high?

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          It depends how many people claiming sick you think are actually unable to work. It benefits both the claimants and government to fudge the statistics to make it seem like the long term unemployed are receiving sickness benefits.

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            1 year ago

            You claimed that it’s millions. Can you show any evidence? I mean, you even claimed the other commenter knows you are right with that.

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              Here you go. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52660591

              Like I said before it really depends how many of the people claiming to be sick actually are unable to work. If you truly believe all of them it doesn’t look like many,but from experience I know there are plenty of people claiming sick who are able to work.

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                Your link doesn’t say anything about millions of people abusing the system. Did you even read it yourself?

                I mean, I know you neither read it, nor have any evidence. You feel that millions of people are abusing the system because you consume propaganda telling you so. But don’t you ever stop and think for one second “why hasn’t anyone been able to actually prove it”? Why do you believe things based on what you feel is true, instead of trying to base your opinions on facts?

                And this doesn’t stop with yourself. You’re so sure of millions abusing the system that you say even other people know you’re right, they’re just acting as if you aren’t - all the while you haven’t seen or shown any evidence for you being correct. But you feel it, so it must be true.

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                  Like I said, if you truly believe every single one of those people are actually so sick they are unable to hold down any kind of work there is literally nothing I can do or say to change your mind.

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                    You are always free to show me evidence that they aren’t! That would change my mind immediately. Funny how that works, huh? But you know you are lying, so you know there is no evidence, so you say “there is nothing I can do that would change your mind”.