You are protecting a lot of stereotypes into a very diverse set of people. You can’t police the few that would spend their money on heroine without punishing those who need food for themselves and their children. Stop blaming the poor for all of societies problems and start looking at the rich to pay their debt to society.
There is no effort you can put into getting out of poverty because the system is designed to keep you impoverished.
Of course you can police different people in different ways it just requires an actual plan. The one size fits all approach to benefits is ridiculous.
Of course people can put effort into bettering themselves and escaping poverty, we don’t live in a third world country, we have social mobility in Britain.
I’ve never mentioned the rich, but it’s laughable that you assume that I think they are blameless in all this. That’s what happens when you see the world in black and white, good versus bad. There are problems in all rungs of society. Poor people can be shitty too.
Not without creating a complex and expensive system that is unnecessarily penalizing.
You’re right, you didn’t mention the rich and that’s the problem. Your focus has been on the wrong group this entire time. Quit obsessing over the people with the least power to affect any change in they’re lives and start focusing on the group that never faces scrutiny but is most deserving of it.
I didn’t mention the rich because it’s off topic when talking about benefit claimants. You just assumed my entire preferred policy platform based on my views on a singular issue.
The system should take into account the individual absolutely and should be tied into social care. If it’s complicated so be it, because it’s a massive societal problem.
It’s off topic only because you want it to be. Just give the poor some money and mind your business. Stop supporting a fucking police state that had its nose up everyone’s ass and has arbitrary and penalizing standards that people have to meet.
It’s is a massive societal problem with a simple solution: mind your fucking business. Studies gave shown that giving the poor money leads to substantially better outcomes than creating a massive bureaucracy. The latter is also more expensive and wasteful of taxpayer dollars.
Meanwhile the rich want to pay poverty wages and dodge taxes.
People who think that all societies problems can be solved by throwing cash at them live in an overly simplistic and naive black and white reality.
Just give mentally ill people who are addicted to hard drugs a load of cash and see what happens. If your solution is to kill these people so that they’re no longer a problem I suppose that works.
I’m tired of people who think taxing the rich will suddenly convert us into a utopia, and this is coming from someone who supports taxing the rich more.
It’s not “black and white”, it’s what the data supports.
In the UK you already have mental health services, what more do you need to do? If they’re not seeking help then being punitive and imprisoning them isn’t going to suddenly improve their lives. How do you think the state could be more involved without being absolutely inhumane?
Taxing the rich isn’t going to fix anything at all if those tax dollars just go back into incentives for corporations; i.e. right back into the pockets of the wealthy.
You are protecting a lot of stereotypes into a very diverse set of people. You can’t police the few that would spend their money on heroine without punishing those who need food for themselves and their children. Stop blaming the poor for all of societies problems and start looking at the rich to pay their debt to society.
There is no effort you can put into getting out of poverty because the system is designed to keep you impoverished.
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Of course you can police different people in different ways it just requires an actual plan. The one size fits all approach to benefits is ridiculous.
Of course people can put effort into bettering themselves and escaping poverty, we don’t live in a third world country, we have social mobility in Britain.
I’ve never mentioned the rich, but it’s laughable that you assume that I think they are blameless in all this. That’s what happens when you see the world in black and white, good versus bad. There are problems in all rungs of society. Poor people can be shitty too.
Not without creating a complex and expensive system that is unnecessarily penalizing.
You’re right, you didn’t mention the rich and that’s the problem. Your focus has been on the wrong group this entire time. Quit obsessing over the people with the least power to affect any change in they’re lives and start focusing on the group that never faces scrutiny but is most deserving of it.
I didn’t mention the rich because it’s off topic when talking about benefit claimants. You just assumed my entire preferred policy platform based on my views on a singular issue.
The system should take into account the individual absolutely and should be tied into social care. If it’s complicated so be it, because it’s a massive societal problem.
It’s off topic only because you want it to be. Just give the poor some money and mind your business. Stop supporting a fucking police state that had its nose up everyone’s ass and has arbitrary and penalizing standards that people have to meet.
It’s is a massive societal problem with a simple solution: mind your fucking business. Studies gave shown that giving the poor money leads to substantially better outcomes than creating a massive bureaucracy. The latter is also more expensive and wasteful of taxpayer dollars.
Meanwhile the rich want to pay poverty wages and dodge taxes.
People who think that all societies problems can be solved by throwing cash at them live in an overly simplistic and naive black and white reality.
Just give mentally ill people who are addicted to hard drugs a load of cash and see what happens. If your solution is to kill these people so that they’re no longer a problem I suppose that works.
I’m tired of people who think taxing the rich will suddenly convert us into a utopia, and this is coming from someone who supports taxing the rich more.
It’s not “black and white”, it’s what the data supports.
In the UK you already have mental health services, what more do you need to do? If they’re not seeking help then being punitive and imprisoning them isn’t going to suddenly improve their lives. How do you think the state could be more involved without being absolutely inhumane?
Taxing the rich isn’t going to fix anything at all if those tax dollars just go back into incentives for corporations; i.e. right back into the pockets of the wealthy.
Mental health services are underfunded and shit. It’s hilarious that you think they’re up to scratch.
What data are you even talking about? THE data. The holy mother grail of all data.