• muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You called the man a racist and in this responce called him a nazi and a facist.

    You fail to understand that the world canot be divided into boxes of black and white and in fact consists upon a spectrum of grey.

    Again you are assuming the root cause is in some sence based upon race, ironicaly the stolen generation disproves that (its a tragedy and never should have happened but go measure those metrics ur so concerned with). He ran from no point u raised that without adressing his original points.

    Again calling the man a nazi for asking questions and calling that bad faith is itself bad faith and sowing seeds of doubt in his charecter (not a good look when someone is trying ti engage with you and understand and question ur point of view).

    You then wrap this all up by straight up assuming this dude is a full blown nazi and that its you duty to ridicule them. I think if you go and look at a certain angry mustache man from history you will find he got his original support from speaches where he quite literaly reason people into being nazis. Assuming its ur goal to reduce rasism (im assuming ur not just part of a false flag opperation) it is in ur interest to engage with them in good faith to try change their mind.

    You finish with

    If you’re carrying on like a bad-faith actor, dodging my questions about what you believe while making unsubstantiated claims about me, where does that leave us?

    Without realising you arw the one who has been making unsubstantiated claims aboit charecter and engaging in bad faith i suggeat you think criticaly about everything you think and say to try break down your arguments from all perspectives. To argue with yourself in the shower to take nothing at face value to use that noggin of urs to find the incentives for why people act the way they do. And maybe in this proccess you will leaen something about human nature and yourself. Heres hoping anyways

    Only read this after you have sent ur responce:

    !im betting on u flippin ur lid having a tantrum and calling me a nazi!<

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        11 months ago

        Wonderful im glad your working towards not being so unesaasarily hostile. You did call me a lier tho maybe you can work on that next.

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          11 months ago

          I called you a liar because you were lying. I not only didn’t call them a Nazi, I actively said I don’t think they’re a Nazi. If you’d like to quote me calling them a Nazi, I’ll happy walk that back with an apology.

          If you get upset about your lies being called out, just don’t tell them. It makes life far simpler.

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      11 months ago

      You don’t actually expect to be taken seriously, do you?

      You’ve seen me ask this person questions to shake out their views, then when they’re repeatedly dodged, noted that I frequently see this particular brand of evasiveness from the likes of Nazis while explicitly saying I don’t think they’re a Nazi.

      You’ve jumped in like some kind of weird white knight, as though they can’t speak for themselves, tell me I’m calling them a Nazi Then with that moronic, dishonest interpretation of what I’ve said on the table (a big ol’ lie), you then saw fit to whine about nuance, then move to telling me I’m making unsubstantiated claims.

      Why do you act the way you do? Having spent the time to use that noggin of yours to find my incentives as you preach, what do you hope to achieve with these lies?

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        11 months ago

        I was simply pointing out ur hypocracy. I jumped in to ridicule ur utter lack of critical thinking perhaps to help you understand that by advocating for such a thing can just as easily be returned upon u.

        Why do i act the way i do? Because im an engineer who when faced with an issue choose to look at numbers, statistics, and history. Hard facts. I then attempt to come as close to an objective framework as possible. From that point i simply apply the scientific method and gradient decent to find a solution that makes the most change in the most effective manner.

        I am simply trying to emplore you to think about issues criticaly and not just spout the same retoric you have been told to think. I do not lie i draw a perspective from reality same as everyone.