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  • etuomaala@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago
    The people in charge of both sides are evil.
    Picking sides in this fight is like
        picking sides in fucking Game of Thrones.
    
    • okamiueru@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I fucking hate that argument. It’s the same kind of mentality that says there is a 50% change of raining tomorrow, because either it rains, or it doesn’t.

      • faintwhenfree@lemmus.org
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        1 year ago

        Huh, well put. I believe in the same thing, but never been able to summarize quickly. Thanks I’m gonna exain it like this now on.

      • tym@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        This is a continuation of the crusades to 75% of those involved. I’m surprised nobody is framing it universally like that.

    • bababatman@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It’s not a complex argument. Israel is an apartheid, Jews only state, set up on land stolen from its indigenous people. Nothing equivocal about it. And they have been terrorizing, murdering, torturing, starving, imprisoning and humiliating them ever since. And there is a huge extremely well funded lobby in the US ensuring that things like what just happened, with Biden pledging 100 billion dollars of taxpayer money to Israel to keep doing what they are doing, which is genocide, keep happening.

      Zero equivalence, the basic concept of Israel is pure, 100% apartheid. Don’t you dare say “six of one, half a dozen of the other,” not close at all, not even in the same universe!

      • cozz33@kbin.social
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        They were so good at stealing that they gave the original owners financial compensation for the land and then stole it right under their noses… even took pictures of it those crooks… https://imgur.io/5fYx5Ud

      • nucawysi@lemmy.world
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        Its not stolen land, it was given to them and sold to them and in addition they fought a completely legal war against people who wanted to annihilate them and won the land. They were willing to share, but the arabs in their war against them made it clear that not only wouldn’t they share, but they would do everything they can to eradicate them from the land, like the peace loving, non apartheid, democratic valued nation they are. These points are not relevant today because both peoples are in the land and there must be a solution to find peace without either of them just dissapearing. They have no choice but to share it or some other country offer safe haven for refugees, as so far none have, not of the arab countries or the west, not unilaterally and collectively. Only israel allows them to stay in israel, even after all the wars and all the terrorist attacks and all the government who pledge to annihilate israelis. If you want to discuss funding, talk about all the millions and billions given to the palestianians from foreign aid, yet they cannot even feed their own people. Talk about the millions of dollars of funding from Iran and other terror supporting states that is given to support the continuation of the attacks against israel.

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          Not a single word of what you said is true.

          Firstly, you can prove it yourself by checking the (friendly) photos shared between Israel and Palestine at the beginning.

          Secondly, don’t believe me, just have a look at the political maps of the area, especially how Israel expanded over Palestine territories, every years since 1970. It helps having a merciless army like Israel.

    • Manu79@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      it seems you can’t be bothered with any thing more than 2 lines of stereotypical rhetoric.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Talk about not bothering.

        Etuomaala is correct. Both sides pick shitty leadership. Both sides are constantly fucking with the other side in a deadly game. However, one side is grossly overpowered relative to the other and is constantly stealing land while committing apartheid.

        Yeah, they’re both assholes. Just one’s a shitload stronger and never ever stops fucking with the little guy.