• Gooner-Astronomer749@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Tomi, Rice, Trossard played well, Martinelli was good better than his rating, everyne else played subpar. Jesus, Zinny and Ode played diabolical.

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      11 months ago

      Odegaard is the hot name to hate now. You’re a fake fan of you don’t want him hung drawn and quartered nowadays.

      • patelbadboy2006@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Zinny should never have started.

        I said it pre match the game isn’t suited to him, because Chelsea will have a strong packed midfield and leave no space.

        He will get pressured and do nothing.

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          11 months ago

          Zinchenko had multiple good games against strong packed midfields last season lol

          he is one of if not our most press resistant player who is upvoting this muck lol

          • patelbadboy2006@alien.topB
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            11 months ago

            Depends on the midfield, someone like city it isn’t bad because they aren’t as physical or in your face.

            But against Liverpool I wouldn’t trust him, same with Chelsea away.

            If Newcastle play with tonali Bruno and long staff, it’s another away game I wouldn’t trust him in.

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              11 months ago

              He was the best player on the pitch at home to Newcastle last year where all they did was come there to kick us with a strong packed midfield and leave no space

              And we would’ve never been 2-0 up at Anfield without his calming presence on the ball in the early stages of the match

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                11 months ago

                I agree, but home and away are different stories and how the match is officiated.

                We get no calls away from home and little fouls teams get away with.

                Liverpool away we could see the tie turning long before it did, and that’s when Arteta needs to make the change.

                Obviously the coaching staff know more then us, I wouldn’t have started him or Vieria against Everton but we controlled and won that comfortably.

                I’m sure they was a game plan that just didn’t work due to various reasons.

          • EvasiveUsernam3@alien.topB
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            11 months ago

            I wonder what games these people watch honestly. Can they point us to many good performances we’ve had in the last 14 months without Zinny at LB? Our level drops significantly when he’s out…

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              11 months ago

              I noticed it even last season but people genuinely don’t understand what his role in the team is and how difficult it is to perform as well as he has done

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                11 months ago

                I agree Zinchenko’s an important player, but he’s seemed a bit out of form in the past few games this year. Misplacing passes and losing the ball at a higher rate. I dont think he is spectacular at defending on the wing, especially with how he positions. So if he is not contributing to maintaining possession in the midfield then I dont see him doing much to help the team. He probably needs to play through this rough patch, but I think Zinny’s form has been one of the differences between this year and last.

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                11 months ago

                I think many people don’t even notice any tactics used during games. Multiple people I know IRL have no idea what I’m talking about when I mention Zinchenko being an inverted LB who basically plays CM when we have possession.

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      11 months ago

      and Jorge can’t be starting games

      Literally hilarious how dumb this comment is. Coming off of a very good performance vs the best club in the world literally 2 weeks ago.

      Chelsea packed the midfield with 6 which was always going to make it difficult to play through the middle, especially when they score off a pen 10 mins into the game and can sit back.

      We did not move the ball quickly enough to the wings, and when we did, our wingers did not dominate the 1v1 battles.

      Saka was kicked for 70 minutes and couldn’t do much and on the other side Martinelli was 1v1 against Gusto about 10 times but could only manage kicking it off him for a corner.

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      11 months ago

      All he could muster was knocking it off Gusto for a corner really. Great is overstating it.

      He played alright

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      11 months ago

      Saka got an assist and martinelli still got higher rating so I would say people kinda agree with you

    • BIG_FICK_ENERGY@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Me too, I think people were understandably frustrated at the team’s performance and came away with the feeling that nobody played well. Martinelli and Rice came to play, I think both of Saliba & Gabriel were good enough too, and Saka had his moment of brilliance to salvage an otherwise forgettable performance. The rest of the team was invisible at best and exposed at worst.

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      11 months ago

      He tried and worked hard but Gusto had him locked down and he didn’t get a shot on target, a 6 is fair.

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      11 months ago

      He was the one player that looked to be creating something when we were losing. Was a bit surprised we subbed him off (thought Saka for Trossard would have been the better sub) but it worked out anyways

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      11 months ago

      Great game is a bit of a hyperbole, he was decent, and a 6/10 on a 0-10 scale is above average.

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    11 months ago

    Feel like Gary Neville is really influencing some people on Raya - he was actually fine yesterday barring that mistake he made to pass the ball straight to Jackson

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, I mean his positioning on it wasn’t great, since there wasn’t any near-post threat, but hopefully he learns that you don’t always need to gamble on crosses and improves from it.

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      11 months ago

      Raya replaced their favorite. Raya could be perfect and he’d still be getting shit from Ramsdale stans.

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        11 months ago

        Bro stop. This is embarrassing.

        As someone who doesn’t care about who is in goal, just admit raya had a bad game

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          11 months ago

          Raya didn’t have a great game, but also can’t really be blamed for either score. And the above comment is still true.

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            11 months ago

            He can be blamed for the second goal

            Plus, Ramsdale has WAY more haters than stans, especially if you look at the end of last season.

            The original comment is just an awful way to ignore any deserved criticism raya might get

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              11 months ago

              It was a perfect miss hit cross. I know Drury and Dixon were calling it that but the broadcast across the pond was heaping praise on Muyd. Raya was playing it as a cross regardless you have to respect the near post shot and it was perfectly placed over his head. Would have caught any goalie in the league.

              Lol, as soon as Rammy got benched half of this sub has magically forgot all the terrible passes and positioning mistakes. Saying there isn’t any sentiment to ppl wanting Ramsdale back is a bit asinine. They are basically the same quality and they have made almost carbon copy mistakes. Little of it due to their quality and most of it because of the style of football Arteta wants to play.

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                11 months ago

                “Saying there isn’t any sentiment to ppls wanting Ramsdale back is a bit asinine”

                • point to me where I said there wasn’t anyone who thought this?
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      11 months ago

      Yeah. I mean if we skip the all the mistakes sure. Hey you know what that means? Mustafi was a world class defender, barring the massive mistake he made every game.

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      11 months ago

      He’s positioned beyond the near post. If the cross wasn’t spoofed we were still in a heap of trouble

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      11 months ago

      People need to realise that Gary Neville is only paid by sky because he has an annoying voice. His footballing knowledge boils down to kicking people and getting away with it because refs are scared of upsetting your manager.

      That’s the the problem where so many people on here get their opinions from the media, the media don’t even believe what they’re saying, they just want engagement and reactions and the easiest way is to wind people up through chatting shit.

      It’s like everyone on here is listening to 606 and saying “good point”.

  • Cthulhu_Madness@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Sorry but Ode was invisible. How did he get a 3.89 ?

    And Ref got a 3.5 when at best he deserved a 1. Some of the voters need to be on fraud watch.

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    11 months ago

    Declan Rice has been incredible imo, always one to grab the game by the balls when we are in a rut but doesn’t really need to be flashy when we’re playing well. It’s already so clear he’s just gonna be great for us for years to come.

    Really need to find out who our left sided attacking midfielder is though, we need more flow in our attack and our left side is being hampered a bit by not having someone consistently delivering in that position.

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    11 months ago

    Possibly the worst performance from Ode in an Arsenal shirt? Can’t think of another that was this bad, City away at the Etihad was quite something too.

    Defo believe Tomi should start over Zina in the next few games, he’s been amazing every time hes played. Saliba had a bit of a weak game too, not counting the penalty. There was a couple of times he kept hoofing the ball which was annoying.

    Hopefully just a bad day in the office, must win game tomorrow, they need to be switched on.

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    11 months ago

    This is a joke.

    Declan was losing duels he usually wins. Gets a 7? Gabi made huge positioning mistakes - 6? Zinchenko does a couple of bad passes - 4? And Tomiyasu gets a 7 for essentially being on the pitch. I don’t get it. Are you guys high or something? Jesus, while not achieving much was doing his job but with no midfield support, he can’t do much - less than 5. What’s this?

    Chelsea performance 6.44? They played their best game in a very long time. Had tactical and performance superiority for 70+ minutes. A bit above average.