Hi!
I’m just curious if there are any Europeans here that are pro gun. As a European myself I know it’s super rare and those who are are probably not going to admit it publicly because guns are very, very stigmatized here. The exception might be the Czech Republic since they actually do have concealed carry licenses.
I haven’t always been pro gun, I have just like every other cheep in Europe I thought they were nothing but bad. But after years of watching guntubers and hearing 2a advocates arguments and seeing how the anti-gun crowds arguments are based on complete ignorance (they often can’t even get the basic facts right), I’ve completely changed my mind over the last maybe 5-6 years. The increase of gun violence in Europe and in my own country in particular, like seeing criminals post videos when they fire their fully automatic AKs in the air out the window of a moving car and the rise of gun violence in general. I realized that gun bans don’t work, and the only way to make sure you never get victimized by one of those criminals is to be able to use a gun in self-defense.
I know there are mostly Americans here, and I watch the gun debate over there and how the elite is trying to infringe on your rights. Make sure you fight that every single day. Because us over here have nothing to defend ourselves with if/when something happens. All we can do is hope the offender is not a complete psycho and will not kill us if we just comply.
Any Europeans wanna share their own journey from anti-gun to pro-gun?
I mostly agree here. I don’t think we should just let everyone and their mother own a gun. I think we can model the whole EU after the Czech Model. Where it does require a license and getting that license requires a clean criminal record and health (including mental) evaluation and also require proper training. At the same time I do support 2a advocates in the US, citizens should never give up their rights to the gov, no matter what. And that’s just a matter of principle for me. But there’s also a downside with it that I do recognize, if i lived over that I would never advocate for gun control.
I think we can trust most of our fellow citizens with guns just like we trust most of them with cars, baseball bats, bow and arrows, swords and knives. Most people are responsible people.
I do not agree that there should have to be an immediate threat towards you or just for certain occupations though, I think every law abiding mentally fit person should be able to carry tools to help them survive if “shit goes down”, because you can never know when that happens. There are multiple examples from just my own country where innocent people end up in the cross fire between gangs too, some have died, some has been wounded, I do not think they can blame themselves.
I never advocated for full-auto either, full auto is pretty useless when you want to hit your shots accurately full auto is meant for suppressive fire in wars, so yeah, semi-auto is enough, single shot is often not enough though, but hey, that would of course be up to the individual what they would think was enough for them.
Thanks for your response btw.
I get the full-auto arguments and why they are not legal in the states today…
That said, I actually think they should be (in the US). Not for home defense against burglars. But as a deterrent for the government. If you read some of the quotes from America’s founding fathers, especially Thomas Jefferson, it is strongly implied that they wanted to essentially to have the citizens be a threat to the government in order to prevent tyranny.
Some of the more recent politicians we’ve had I feel like they are getting closer and closer to the kind of tyranny that was feared back then (using power of government and military to take away people’s rights). If that day ever came, being able to fight back against injustice, even in the face of opposition from a modern military, would give corrupt politicians a lot more pause than if they thought they could steamroll everyone into compliance.