• YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 months ago

    Moderates make up 85% of the population. Are you saying you want to remove access to vote for the vast majority of people to support your tiny minority views?

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      11 months ago

      Moderates make up 85% of the population

      What?

      For that to remotely have a chance at being true, then you’re counting a sizable amount of Republicans as “moderates”.

      A claim like that really needs a source

      Are you saying you want to remove access to vote for the vast majority of people to support your tiny minority views?

      Clearly not…

      That would only make sense if you first claim was factual, which it isn’t. And even then, clearly wasn’t what I was saying…

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        11 months ago

        Far Left make up about 5%, Far Right are 10%, Moderates (everyone else) make up 85%

        Gallop says 81% make up the middle. Far Right 9%, Far Left is 7%, and Moderates 81%. There are no conservatives or liberals anymore. They are all Moderates now compared to the Progressives and Fascists on the two ends.

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          11 months ago

          A claim like that really needs a source

          You’re not linking any sources…

          I’m not gonna keep asking

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              I looked it up, just for fun, because you’re being annoying and obtuse.

              Gallup (FTFY, learn to spell your source) does indeed have some data about this. It’s a self-reported description of one’s political leaning, labeled an Ideology poll, that they have been taking since 1992. 2021’s results had about 12000 responders, which equates to 0.0075% of the number of adults who voted in the 2020 election.

              In this poll:

              • 9% identified as very conservative
              • 27% identified as conservative
              • 37% identified as moderate
              • 17% identified as liberal
              • 7% identified as very liberal
              • 3% said they had no opinion

              No clue whose asshole you’re pulling your random numbers out of.

              Here’s the source you tried and failed to reference: https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conservatives-moderates-tie.aspx

              EDIT: For extra fun, if you open that page and Ctrl+F for any number from 80 to 89, you won’t find a single one. So not only is your 85% number wrong, there isn’t even anything close to it mentioned anywhere in the results for any reason at all.

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                11 months ago

                It would seem that they’re calling everyone who didn’t pick the one of the most extreme options a “moderate”

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                Yep, the numbers add up, and that’s likely why they refused to link it, because one glance disproves their argument . Although they did exaggerate the right and downplay the left a little still…

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                I find it interesting to look at polls on issues, as the right and the corporate media has spent untold amounts of money and decades on demonizing the very word liberal, so asking people what they self-identify as is probably less instructive than asking them where they stand on a whole range of issues.