“Seeing what happened in Colorado makes me think—except we believe in democracy in Texas—maybe we should take Joe Biden off the ballot in Texas for allowing eight million people to cross the border since he’s been president disrupting our state,” Patrick said.
Texas and Florida have been bussing people out of states. They already have a solution in place for this called “Dump your troubles onto someone else.”
The last time they actually put this into practice, Florida’s construction, agriculture, real estate, and education labor force all dropped. DeSantis had to repeal his own law and give raises just to get migrant workers back.
The problem isn’t that migrants are crossing the boarder, the problem is that the republican solution is outdated. We need a more managed and modern way of controlling immigration.
Also, this is political theatre. Texas border cities and Texas in general are used to migrants, to the point that they’re just a natural part of the local culture. Republicans whinge about the border, but most people affected by it are like, “WTF are you on about?”
Also, Mexican food is incredible. One of the most visible benefits of multiculturalism. I can’t even imagine growing up in an America that only ever had English food. Boring.
In literally every rural town I’ve been in, there’s a Mexican restaurant, and it’s always the town favorite. Celebrating a birthday? You’re getting some fajitas.
If you ever find yourself hungry and trapped in the boonies, the Mexican restaurant is usually a safe bet.
Domestic Transporting – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(ii) makes it an offense for any person who – knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law.
Interesting, so this law seems to makes it illegal for a person to help an “illegal immigrant” move about the U.S., but if one is trying either to harm them, or use them in some fashion to cause harm to others than it is legal?
So can I claim I’m trying to harm immigrants I help and get away with it? Or does the intent not matter and any person moving or assisting in the movement of illegal immigrant constitute a “furtherance” of the crime of illegally entering the U.S.?
Furtherance of them remaining in the US, yes. This does that. My reading is giving transportation to further them illegally staying in the US is a crime.
Also, the big issue is people assume migrants take jobs, they usually take the jobs americans do not want to work as and shows it with the labor force in florida with agriculture, majority I believe work in agriculture.
They also pay tens of billions of dollars in taxes every year, despite having no Social Security number and being ineligible for any social safety net benefits whatsoever.
The thing to understand about making the border harder to cross is that it drives permanent immigration instead of allowing temporary seasonal immigration.
Before they made the border harder to cross, seasonal/migrant workers could go home and come back relatively simply. When they made it harder to go home and come back, the incentive was created for temporary workers to become permanent immigrants, legal or otherwise (but given the drastically underfunded legal immigration system is bottlenecked and legal immigration takes decades, that means farm workers have to come illegally and work under the table and that’s not something the anti-immigrant folks seem to want to end). That there is demand for their work (and basically without them it’s not met) should tell us all that there’s no will to enforce labor law and attempts to control immigration at the border (and not in the labor force) drive illegal immigration
You make a really good point here – there would be a lot less illegal immigration if we had “day passes”. Let migrant workers come and go, and formalize their status so they have to be treated fairly and with dignity.
The way I see it, Texas has the largest share of the US-Mexico border by far, so if anyone is failing when it comes to illegal immigration it’s Texas and the Republican politicians that run it.
Their response would be to tighten immigration restrictions with state law. Which they have tried to do. Immigration is clearly a federal issue, though.
What we need to do is fix the immigration courts. Right now, there can be a long time between “I request asylum” and the court saying yay or nay. In addition, people can be required to be their own lawyer - including if they don’t speak English or are three years old.
Also, if we want to slow migrants coming in, we should target businesses that hire illegal immigrants. If there were no jobs for them, they wouldn’t come here. Theoretically, Republicans should support this since it would be a supply side solution. Of course, this would target businesses and isn’t cruel enough towards immigrants to get the support of Republicans.
The solution is to buy Venezuela, and make it a territory. New legal immigrants, new oil, give immunity to the the old politicians so they can retire. A win win.
Texas and Florida have been bussing people out of states. They already have a solution in place for this called “Dump your troubles onto someone else.”
The last time they actually put this into practice, Florida’s construction, agriculture, real estate, and education labor force all dropped. DeSantis had to repeal his own law and give raises just to get migrant workers back.
The problem isn’t that migrants are crossing the boarder, the problem is that the republican solution is outdated. We need a more managed and modern way of controlling immigration.
Also, this is political theatre. Texas border cities and Texas in general are used to migrants, to the point that they’re just a natural part of the local culture. Republicans whinge about the border, but most people affected by it are like, “WTF are you on about?”
Also, Mexican food is incredible. One of the most visible benefits of multiculturalism. I can’t even imagine growing up in an America that only ever had English food. Boring.
In literally every rural town I’ve been in, there’s a Mexican restaurant, and it’s always the town favorite. Celebrating a birthday? You’re getting some fajitas.
If you ever find yourself hungry and trapped in the boonies, the Mexican restaurant is usually a safe bet.
I’m sure it varies wildly, but in my experience, that is not the case near me. I imagine it’s more common the more south you get.
Isn’t “in furtherance of such violation of law” the critical thing there?
Interesting, so this law seems to makes it illegal for a person to help an “illegal immigrant” move about the U.S., but if one is trying either to harm them, or use them in some fashion to cause harm to others than it is legal?
So can I claim I’m trying to harm immigrants I help and get away with it? Or does the intent not matter and any person moving or assisting in the movement of illegal immigrant constitute a “furtherance” of the crime of illegally entering the U.S.?
Wouldn’t that, then, qualify as a different crime?
“are you trafficking illegal aliens?”
“Yes sir officer, but with the express intent of killing them.”
“… I’m gonna need you to step out of the truck…”
Furtherance of them remaining in the US, yes. This does that. My reading is giving transportation to further them illegally staying in the US is a crime.
“We believe in democracy in Texas…except when our feelings get hurt.”
Or when people want to actually vote
Also, the big issue is people assume migrants take jobs, they usually take the jobs americans do not want to work as and shows it with the labor force in florida with agriculture, majority I believe work in agriculture.
They also pay tens of billions of dollars in taxes every year, despite having no Social Security number and being ineligible for any social safety net benefits whatsoever.
The thing to understand about making the border harder to cross is that it drives permanent immigration instead of allowing temporary seasonal immigration.
Before they made the border harder to cross, seasonal/migrant workers could go home and come back relatively simply. When they made it harder to go home and come back, the incentive was created for temporary workers to become permanent immigrants, legal or otherwise (but given the drastically underfunded legal immigration system is bottlenecked and legal immigration takes decades, that means farm workers have to come illegally and work under the table and that’s not something the anti-immigrant folks seem to want to end). That there is demand for their work (and basically without them it’s not met) should tell us all that there’s no will to enforce labor law and attempts to control immigration at the border (and not in the labor force) drive illegal immigration
You make a really good point here – there would be a lot less illegal immigration if we had “day passes”. Let migrant workers come and go, and formalize their status so they have to be treated fairly and with dignity.
“give raises” ? He clearly didn’t mandate that under the table wages have a minimum. So what are you referring to here? Not familiar
Allowing them to cross? I imagine this guy was at the border himself every day beating them away with sticks. What a fuckin chode.
The way I see it, Texas has the largest share of the US-Mexico border by far, so if anyone is failing when it comes to illegal immigration it’s Texas and the Republican politicians that run it.
Their response would be to tighten immigration restrictions with state law. Which they have tried to do. Immigration is clearly a federal issue, though.
What we need to do is fix the immigration courts. Right now, there can be a long time between “I request asylum” and the court saying yay or nay. In addition, people can be required to be their own lawyer - including if they don’t speak English or are three years old.
Also, if we want to slow migrants coming in, we should target businesses that hire illegal immigrants. If there were no jobs for them, they wouldn’t come here. Theoretically, Republicans should support this since it would be a supply side solution. Of course, this would target businesses and isn’t cruel enough towards immigrants to get the support of Republicans.
The solution is to buy Venezuela, and make it a territory. New legal immigrants, new oil, give immunity to the the old politicians so they can retire. A win win.
I’m not sure if that’s insane or brilliant.