A new report adds to a growing line of research showing that police departments don’t solve serious or violent crimes with any regularity, and in fact, spend very little time on crime control, in contrast to popular narratives.
A thought-terminating cliche that has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. “Don’t listen to this person’s completely reasonable point, they’re [redscareword]”
You spam the same tired images praising Lenin who murdered 8 million people. Don’t listen to this person because they idolize mass murderers. They’re not mentally well.
Many Stalin, Mao and Lenin worshippers around here.
These have hard time realizing the crimes that these clowns committed. Must be nice to pick and choose history like that, as long as their politics stay safe, I guess. Victims were mostly eastern Europeans and central and east asiains, who cares. A small price for a western tankie it seems.
You brought politics into this discussion. You got called for having unsavory post history praising mass murders. If you are eastern European, that’s a very weird position to take. I am guessing they didn’t raise or you are too dense to realize what was done there.
I doubt any here is an ally of the pigs in blue, so really you derailed this discussion by inserted you shiti politics.
I just don’t get how adult men still fall for daddy worship on either side. 21sr century problems requires modern solutions, not repeating same clown history and sinping for dead clowns daddies.
I just don’t get how adult men still fall for daddy worship on either side. 21sr century problems requires modern solutions, not repeating same clown history and sinping for dead clowns daddies.
I am not a man. Stop misgendering me. This is the second fucking time in this thread.
You brought politics into this discussion.
I just said we’re the ones that we’ve been saying this forever, and linked to some further reading.
You got called for having unsavory post history praising mass murders.
I’ve never praised “mass murderers”. Get a grip.
If you are eastern European, that’s a very weird position to take
No it isn’t. You have a warped view of what eastern europe believes because you see us as caricatures to use as a political weapon. I have gone over this in the past, there is a very large amount of positivity towards the soviet union here:
Reflecting back on the breakup of the Soviet Union that happened 22 years ago next week, residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them. Only Azerbaijanis, Kazakhstanis, and Turkmens are more likely to see benefit than harm from the breakup. Georgians are divided.
A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.
The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.
Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.
Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime, according to a poll conducted by the polling institute SC&C and released Sunday.
The majority of Russians polled in a 2016 study said they would prefer living under the old Soviet Union and would like to see the socialist system and the Soviet state restored.
Americans always say this stuff about europe because their brains are riddled with red scare brainworms and are completely devoid of any knowledge or understanding of what the left in Europe actually thinks because Americans do not have any experience with a left, they don’t have one.
Being an adult woman into daddy worship ain’t any better but OK.
OK we are using trust me bros surveys to justify USSR crimes now?
I am sure every country will have their bootlickers. You know those regims required plenty of collaborators to operate, I am sure they would still be simping for the good olds days when they were in charge.
Serb and russian example is disingenous also since their dear 'countries" lost a whole bunch of second class citizens that they liked to exploit for profit and mass murder fun.
It takes more courage to stand up for something you believe than to give in to populism. I really do appreciate the points you brought up. I may still disagree with several things about communism, but I have to acknowledge that even in this capitalist society we have many issues that are only resolved by a “heavy handed” policy due to a lot of the greed going on in the west.
Despite this back and forth going on, you have very succinctly got some good points across and I very much hope you stick around for the discussions here. I might not agree with all your philosophy, but conversation with someone like you is a real good thing as opposed to sitting in echo chambers with narrow perspective.
I don’t worship them. I simply don’t agree with your take that they’re bad. Life was significantly worse under the Tsars and this is empirically provable with very simple data. For example a look at prison mortality rates before and after the revolution:
What you are functionally doing when you attack Lenin is say that you think the revolution shouldn’t have happened. You’re defending monsters yourself - the tsars.
The point isn’t to defend the mistakes of past socialist endeavours of which there were certainly many, but to uphold the obvious improvements that they most certainly made over what came before them.
And you consistently ignore the fact that good people throughout history agree with me that Lenin was a revolutionary that fought for good, not a monster.
Your username betrays your very first sentence (you claim not to worship Lenin). You can’t even start by making a truthful, coherent, or logical point. Look at how many images you’ve posted praising Lenin. You’re seriously claiming that you’re not worshiping him? You’re delusional.
You’re defending a man who murdered 8 million people. Full stop. You also defend modern day Russia and their genocide against the Ukrainian people whenever you get a chance. Everything you say revolves around supporting Russia and their unwarranted murders. You’re not fooling anyone.
Wow, I could excuse the Lenin worship for a second (his list of atrocities isn’t widely known and he did depose a despotic regime), but Putin’s Russia???
Your username betrays your very first sentence (you claim not to worship Lenin). You can’t even start by making a truthful, coherent, or logical point. Look at how many images you’ve posted praising Lenin. You’re seriously claiming that you’re not worshiping him? You’re delusional.
A revolution is not a mass murder. You just keep repeating the “killed 8 million people” line over and over again, devoid of context or historical analysis in order to repeatedly put the deaths that occurred during that revolution all entirely on one person. While simultaneously ignoring the fact that the revolution created a vast improvement in people’s lives.
You also defend modern day Russia
I do not. You are building a strawman and repeatedly make stuff up. You do not participate in good faith and if you think harrassing me over and over again will get me to stop participating you are going to be disappointed. It’s been tried many times before.
The author of that graph miscalculated and accidentally inflated the Tsarist era statistics. They were closer to this. (If I remember correctly, the original author might have misunderstood Wheatcroft when he wrote ‘These rates were extremely high in the 1880s, when they were more than five times the normal prison mortality rate[.]’)
The Tsars were still pretty awful, though, and were one of the reasons that made the October Revolution inevitable.
Wow who would have guessed. Certainly not marxists who have been saying this for hundreds of years!
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/the-police-are-not-here-to-protect-you/
This user worships Lenin (known for killing over 8 million people). They are only here to create strife.
A thought-terminating cliche that has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. “Don’t listen to this person’s completely reasonable point, they’re [redscareword]”
You spam the same tired images praising Lenin who murdered 8 million people. Don’t listen to this person because they idolize mass murderers. They’re not mentally well.
Many Stalin, Mao and Lenin worshippers around here.
These have hard time realizing the crimes that these clowns committed. Must be nice to pick and choose history like that, as long as their politics stay safe, I guess. Victims were mostly eastern Europeans and central and east asiains, who cares. A small price for a western tankie it seems.
Half my family grew up in the soviet union. Czech.
You two are the ones that completely derailed this conversation into talk about lenin and other crap. I commented about cops ffs.
You brought politics into this discussion. You got called for having unsavory post history praising mass murders. If you are eastern European, that’s a very weird position to take. I am guessing they didn’t raise or you are too dense to realize what was done there.
I doubt any here is an ally of the pigs in blue, so really you derailed this discussion by inserted you shiti politics.
I just don’t get how adult men still fall for daddy worship on either side. 21sr century problems requires modern solutions, not repeating same clown history and sinping for dead clowns daddies.
I am not a man. Stop misgendering me. This is the second fucking time in this thread.
I just said we’re the ones that we’ve been saying this forever, and linked to some further reading.
I’ve never praised “mass murderers”. Get a grip.
No it isn’t. You have a warped view of what eastern europe believes because you see us as caricatures to use as a political weapon. I have gone over this in the past, there is a very large amount of positivity towards the soviet union here:
7 out of 11 countries believe the end of the USSR harmed their countries rather than benefited them
Hungary: 72% of Hungarians say they are worse off today economically than under communism
Romania: 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism
Germany: more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR
28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime
81% of Serbians believe they lived best in Yugoslavia
Majority of Russians
Americans always say this stuff about europe because their brains are riddled with red scare brainworms and are completely devoid of any knowledge or understanding of what the left in Europe actually thinks because Americans do not have any experience with a left, they don’t have one.
Being an adult woman into daddy worship ain’t any better but OK.
OK we are using trust me bros surveys to justify USSR crimes now?
I am sure every country will have their bootlickers. You know those regims required plenty of collaborators to operate, I am sure they would still be simping for the good olds days when they were in charge.
Serb and russian example is disingenous also since their dear 'countries" lost a whole bunch of second class citizens that they liked to exploit for profit and mass murder fun.
I’m just curious how anyone should have known you’re not a man.
Come on duderino.
It takes more courage to stand up for something you believe than to give in to populism. I really do appreciate the points you brought up. I may still disagree with several things about communism, but I have to acknowledge that even in this capitalist society we have many issues that are only resolved by a “heavy handed” policy due to a lot of the greed going on in the west.
Despite this back and forth going on, you have very succinctly got some good points across and I very much hope you stick around for the discussions here. I might not agree with all your philosophy, but conversation with someone like you is a real good thing as opposed to sitting in echo chambers with narrow perspective.
Ableism really gets your point across and makes you look good.
Worshiping mass murderers really gets your point across and makes you look good.
I don’t worship them. I simply don’t agree with your take that they’re bad. Life was significantly worse under the Tsars and this is empirically provable with very simple data. For example a look at prison mortality rates before and after the revolution:
What you are functionally doing when you attack Lenin is say that you think the revolution shouldn’t have happened. You’re defending monsters yourself - the tsars.
The point isn’t to defend the mistakes of past socialist endeavours of which there were certainly many, but to uphold the obvious improvements that they most certainly made over what came before them.
And you consistently ignore the fact that good people throughout history agree with me that Lenin was a revolutionary that fought for good, not a monster.
Your username betrays your very first sentence (you claim not to worship Lenin). You can’t even start by making a truthful, coherent, or logical point. Look at how many images you’ve posted praising Lenin. You’re seriously claiming that you’re not worshiping him? You’re delusional.
You’re defending a man who murdered 8 million people. Full stop. You also defend modern day Russia and their genocide against the Ukrainian people whenever you get a chance. Everything you say revolves around supporting Russia and their unwarranted murders. You’re not fooling anyone.
Wow, I could excuse the Lenin worship for a second (his list of atrocities isn’t widely known and he did depose a despotic regime), but Putin’s Russia???
A revolution is not a mass murder. You just keep repeating the “killed 8 million people” line over and over again, devoid of context or historical analysis in order to repeatedly put the deaths that occurred during that revolution all entirely on one person. While simultaneously ignoring the fact that the revolution created a vast improvement in people’s lives.
I do not. You are building a strawman and repeatedly make stuff up. You do not participate in good faith and if you think harrassing me over and over again will get me to stop participating you are going to be disappointed. It’s been tried many times before.
The author of that graph miscalculated and accidentally inflated the Tsarist era statistics. They were closer to this. (If I remember correctly, the original author might have misunderstood Wheatcroft when he wrote ‘These rates were extremely high in the 1880s, when they were more than five times the normal prison mortality rate[.]’)
The Tsars were still pretty awful, though, and were one of the reasons that made the October Revolution inevitable.
Evidence for that claim?
Your comment didn’t bring anything meaningful to this discussion either. All you did was post a website link.
Maybe your post could actually include some meaningful discussion and comments that can stand on their own. Maybe next time?
Maybe try clicking it and reading next time?
Seeking as you did not post any meaningful comment, no thanks.
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(Also I’m not a guy, you’ve been told this before. Stop intentionally misgendering me.)
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http://www.mandela.gov.za/mandela_speeches/2002/021028_lenin.htm