• bob_wiley@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      It’s federated, I didn’t seek this post or instance out. What does being on lemmygrad mean? I don’t inherently know the ideology behind every instance, if you’re getting at something related to that.

      • Rania Rudhan 🇩🇿🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        What does being on lemmygrad mean?

        Lemmygrad is a Marxist-Leninist instance, commies or Tankies or whatever you know it as, if you’re interested in like learning about it and discussing it you’re free to do so, but Capitalist apoligia isn’t allowed here.

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          11 months ago

          Define “capitalist apologia” as differentiated from discussing Marxist-Leninist “shoot people to solve world problems” ideology?

          • Simplifying things beyond their meaning doesn’t make you intelligent, it makes you look like baby, “Revolution is when boom boom”

            The guns in the comic and the title of the post are for a revolution, yk just like the “glorious” american “revolution” that yankees worship. revolutions need violence like it or not, the ruling class will not give away its position easily and it will send its dogs to bite us (Police, Army, Fascist militias… etc).

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            11 months ago

            In most of hisotry, a very large amount of the problem s were solved by shooting people. Getting the US out of Vietnam and Laos were caused by shooting people. Dealing with the Nazis were done by shooting people. Getting the British out of Ireland was done by shooting people. And shooting people is still the main solution in the world. The main tool to keep the Zionists from continuing to expand are guns and bombs

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              11 months ago

              Probably don’t want to mention Zionists to a concern troll, they’re already looking for excuses to call us Nazis.

              For lurkers: We “tankies” do not support the violence that Israel commits against Palestine, as it is a settler apartheid state similar to South Africa that brutally suppresses the Palestinians. While you might’ve only seen violence from Palestinians in the news, this is only because the news ignores Israel’s violence against them in order to blame the victim.

              Notice that during this paragraph their ethnicity did not play into it. If the situation was reversed and Jews were being systematically destroyed by Arabs, we would be just as opposed to it. “Zionism” in this context refers to the idea that the Jewish people “deserve” to carve out an ethnostate in the middle east, at the expense of the people living there. If you have read this and believe that Jewish people deserve an ethnostate because of the Holocaust, you should ask why that state needs to be in the middle east, at the expense of the non-Jewish people living there, rather than say…in Germany, the nation that actually committed those horrific atrocities.

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                11 months ago

                I think they’ll call us Nazis no matter what. We shouldn’t pretend Zionists are evil just to avoid being called something we will be called regardless

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                  11 months ago

                  Oh, we should never give into “both sides” bullshit or anything, but it is important to stress evil actions not evil as an inherent trait.

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                    11 months ago

                    Zionists are inherently evil. The idea of an ethnic-religious state within a territory that is not theirs is inherently colonial and hence evil. Zionists are evil themselves, not just evil actions