“There’s no posse and there’s no retinue and there’s no family,” says Chris Hayes on Trump’s arraignment. “The guy is alone. He is solo rolling with the lawyers who hope his checks clear.”
At this point an indictment of Trump in the US has reached the same level as mass shootings and our dying planet. Which indictment, mass shooting or catastrophic environmental disaster are we talking about? I’m numb and have lost track amongst the desperate hopes for change.
Exactly this. An arraignment of a former president has become a non-event. This is ideal for Trump, regardless of how MSNBC tries to spin it.
Was anybody expecting a guilty plea?
Arraignments aren’t usually super eventful things in of themself.
This is definitely some of it. Although being in DC probably also helps to tone things down. DC is a pretty blue town outside of the federal buildings.
I can picture a world where Trump’s fervent supporters would descend upon DC and cause at least a little turbulence.
Impossible. They’d never do that.
I believe you’re referring to Antifa, Trump supporters would never ever never do anything like that.
What i find interesting is that somehow in developing countries justice was slow but eventually it arrived. I can think of places like Peru with Fujimori. Presidents got away for a while but eventually their own justice systems made them pay. I would be surprised if somehow justice didn’t prevail in this situation with Trump.
Justice has to prevail on some level if the US has any hope of protecting its democracy. This was a direct attack on the most fundamental parts of the country.
Its* democracy
if the US has any hope of protecting its democracy.
I don’t think that’s a priority as far as our leaders are concerned. The facade of democracy is just getting in their way now.
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In actuality America is a federal republic with representative democracy, so not wholly a democratic nation.
Having 3, possible 4 indictments, some of it very damning, I’m convinced shit will happen. IF nothing happens out of 3 (4*) indictments, then I’d lose pretty much all hope at that point. I am at a point now where I have no yet lost all hope.
At this point I’ll take a slap on the wrist for Trump if he’s barred from running for Presidency. I just want all this to end and for the country to move on.
I am at a point now where I have no yet lost all hope.
I’ll save you a seat down here at rock bottom.
I imagine one of the prosecutors touches Trump’s forehead for a few seconds, then says: “It’s afraid!”
I would like to know more.
Excellent reference!
The only good bug is a dead bug
They’d never get the Cheeto fingers off.
Most of the protesters aren’t allowed near Washington DC government buildings due to their plea deals.
Headline: “Trump rawdogs own arraignment!”
Awesome
I also read he said he’d get his supporters to boycott elections.
One can only hope!
The fascists aren’t stupid. They see the writing on the wall so they’re moving on. Completely expected and even if Trump gets the death penalty the threat is by no means gone. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself.
Beard has a great quote from her book SPQR
“If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.”
An analogy I like: If you have a toxic, dangerous plant in your garden, like the Gympie Gympie maybe, do you remove it by snipping off the leaf bud at the very top, or do you pull it out roots and all?
I leave it there, dripping in glyphosate, as a message to other weeds.
I don’t think that those are the only options. But I will think on it.
The fascists aren’t stupid.
Citation needed
There’s a distinction to be made between the fascists—the people in power pushing fascism—and the people voting for it. The latter are ignorant and stupid. The former are wringing the country dry for money and power.
Never assume the enemy is stupid. That’s how you lose. If they were truly stupid they wouldn’t have gotten this far and wouldn’t even be a threat.
Agreed. We can always look back at our over-prepping and laugh, or…
This is a major problem with the right wing, there is no principles or loyalty or anything. It’s not the major problem, it’s just one.
Additionally, a leader is just a tool used by a collective. The collective is in power, not the leader. Trump is no longer useful to them so he is being replaced, just like how a medieval king who fails to please his court of nobles is overthrown for a king that can.
Whether you can overthrow a leader simply depends on if you’re part of the collective they serve or not. The reason the general public can’t get rid of corrupt politicians or near universally hated people like Bezos or Elon, is because the collective that appoints them is not the public, but much like the medieval king, they only have to answer to a small group of modern day nobles (AKA the corporations, investors, and ultra rich in general).
It’s the ruling class, not the individual ruler, that calls the shots.
This sounds eye openingly Putin-esque
Absolutely. I was talking to a friend the other day and he suggested hiring a hitman through crowdfunding to shoot Macron. I told him, Macron is just a symptom. This hydra has a bunch of other heads ready to sprout, you’ll get life for nothing
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I think the point is that usually there is a gaggle of hangers on, that think they can avoid being thrown under the bus. That group is shrinking.
Supporters are still supporters, but less inclined to make an effort to support. It’s a sign of waning power as the emperor’s new clothes are indeed missing.
What even is this article?
An itchy word-worm crafted to crawl under his thin orange skin
Well said 👏🏻
Sad that he can’t Grab Them By The Posse!!!
/s
Lol well done.
I couldn’t believe when that came out and had no effect. Like when George W would just misspeak or Clinton admitted smoking weed in college or whatever, it always seemed like there were huge political consequences.
So sad.
Nice one
Sad trombone lol
He’s still the frontrunner for the Republican nomination by a wide margin, there is no one who is showing like they will compete, even after this most recent indictment. Republicans will still rally behind him if he gets the nomination. Unless his trials are ahead of the election, which they likely aren’t, nothing will change.
He’s a frontrunner from lack of options, not from appeal. Other potential candidates are too intimidated knowing that if they run against him, he will shower them with insults and innuendo daily and try to bully them into backing out.
What checks? They think they’re getting paid?
He’s raked in hundreds of millions in political donations since this started, they’ve been paid more than 40m so far
And yet he still stiffed Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani should have seen it coming though, it’s like someone who marries a known cheater and is shocked they got cheated on.
That’s one of the coolest things he’s ever done though. You’re redeeming Trump in my eyes right now
Well, Rudy had a number of embarrassing moments in public that I think caused Trump to lose any respect he might have had for the former mayor. Two that I can think of, the hair dye sweating down his face and the fart picked up on mic in a courtroom.
But his worst offense, in terms of how Trump views people: he lost. He’s a loser.
You forgot their perfect press conference at the lovely Four Seasons Landscaping company.
That was one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed on tv. I talked about it for weeks with friends.
Next to an adult novelties store.
Win or lose, Trump would never pay. He stiffs vendors for good or bad jobs.
Don’t forget how he was filmed in the second Borat movie in that hotel room attempting to have sex with an actress he thought was a conservative news journalist.
I didn’t think I needed to state that that was a joke.
He’s not alone. He still has millions of US voters on his side.
keep donating to his reelection campaign. his lawyers appreciate it.
He has to be pissed that Jarvanka took the 3 billion and booked without kicking up to the head czar
You mean his pattern of betraying everyone somehow backfired?
Oh no! Anyway…
What victims of a real witch hunt look like
That wasn’t a witch hunt, they were guilty.
Not only were they guilty, their were probably others, but the FBI quit whole it was ahead…the opposite of a witch hunt.
Bye fel-cheeto!
