cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3049053

The Illinois State Supreme Court found a strict assault weapons ban passed after the Highland Park shooting to be constitutional in a ruling issued Friday.

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    1 year ago

    Fun fact, the vast majority of guns used in the commission of a crime, were legally purchased. Not always by the person who used it in a crime, but often resold on the gray market to that person. There are wholesalers who buy guns in bulk (often in Georgia) and then resell those guns on the gray market.

    These gray market guns are often smuggled out of the country to arm drug cartels. It’s a hell of a lot easier to get an American gun into Mexico, than it is to buy a gun legally in Mexico.

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        1 year ago

        They’re illegal, but enforcement has always been shitty. It’s getting better thanks to a law signed last year.

        But more can still be done. There are still lots of loopholes in gun laws that let criminals buy guns legally.

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          1 year ago

          “2a nuts” have little to do with lax enforcement of existing laws, even if they oppose new laws on legal private sale/purchase. The issue regarding lax enforcement on already-illegal straw purchases is more to do with the law enforcers not enforcing those current laws.

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            1 year ago

            2a nuts oppose any gun laws, and yes, that includes existing laws. And who said police officers couldn’t also be 2a nuts?

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              While they may oppose existing laws, existing laws exist, and are still enforceable. As for police being 2A nuts themselves, some of them, but unsurprisingly most are “rules for thee not for me” types and are also the exact people who will “come and take it.” They currently do enforce those laws, just not well, so I’d argue that proves they won’t “not enforce” because they’re “2a nuts.” More likely they’d “selectively enforce” because they’re “racist” which reflects the reality we see in America today.

              Furthermore, Warren v DC, Castle Rock v Gonzales, and a few other cases have made it clear that they have no obligation to protect nor serve, and so we’re left with having to protect ourselves. That and the spread out nature of our unwalkable cities puts the national average response time to emergencies at 11min (30+ for rural, about 5min for most cities, total avg is 11min), that is from the time you call, not from the time the crime starts and usually you can’t say “hold on, violent person, let me just use this phone to call the authorities before we begin assaulting me” as they usually won’t acquiesce that request, but you can learn the standard for self defense and hit him with the OC spray (if non-deadly force) or the 9mm (if deadly force) in “as quick as you can get it out.” Sometimes if he has the drop on you you have to wait to surreptitiously draw, but that is still “in the moment” not after he gets away and pray for camera footage, if I’m even still breathing.

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      1 year ago

      I don’t understand why this is supposed to be some “gun laws don’t work” own instead of an argument for more gun laws.

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        1 year ago

        It’s an argument for more gun control, because the current system of doing nothing is not working.