Trump went from majority support to majority support. He will win the nomination because conservatives, Republicans in particular are terrible, awful people. None of this is really even new, they’ve been terrible for decades and decades.
Its astounding how gullible a majority of them actually are.
We need to find some way to meet their needs that isn’t politics, because the needs they are meeting have nothing to do with governance.
There is nothing you can do that they won’t turn into politics. They turned the existence of groups of people into politics. That’s right by simply existing its politics. And there is no way you can avoid it.
Except that’s not politics. Not in any meaningful, constructive sense. It’s partisan but it’s not political, and I think there’s a pretty big difference.
But that’s the problem you and I may think that way but a lot of people don’t. It has allowed them to make a myriad of non-political subjects political.
We need to find some way to meet their needs that isn’t politics
Uhh, an MMO where they can run around shooting at minorities and yelling racial epithets into their mics?
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They’re scared. They are powerless to affect an uncertain future. They’ll get worse the longer they have to live like this. I guess we have to fix the world?
They need to stop actively working against that then.
Yeah, and a drowning man needs to stop thrashing and pulling down his rescuers, but he’s fucking drowning.
They are easily scared you mean? For people who are so easily scared of everything, they sure seem to embrace guns and COVID like it’s their new Jesus.
An acquaintance of mine and I were discussing a physical altercation that occurred between him and a random other customer at a convenience store and the ubiquitousness of guns. A scary (jumpy;nervous) person with a firearm is perhaps more dangerous than the habitual criminal with a gun because they’re more likely to fire without reason.
Your false bravado isn’t fooling anyone. If you’re not scared, you should be. If you feel in control of your future 20 years from now, you’re lying to yourself.
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When so many people make comments like this and “basket of deplorables”, is it any wonder that so many people are so enthusiastic about Trump? It’s clear to them that people like you think very little of people like them, and they see him as “their guy”. Turns out people don’t like it when others make sweeping generalizations by calling them, and nearly half the country, evil.
They actively call my family members “pedophiles” for being gay. I don’t like it when they make sweeping generalisations and call my family evil.
So forgive me for thinking you’re a reprehensible person if you support a person as vile as Trump. He started the mudslinging, not us.
Again, you are making a generalisation that they think your family members are pedophiles.
“I don’t like people who are actively supporting a bigoted criminal trying to get more power.”
“See, this is why they are supporting the bigoted criminal.”
Okay then…
Everyone is responsible for their reprehensible behaviour but them.
I am not responsible for conservatives abhorrent attitudes. If someone pointing out how absolutely shitty you are being makes you even more shitty, that is entirely on you.
Nah. I just despise traitors.
It is kind of telling how emotionally fragile republicans are based on how the deplorables comment devastated them.
They’re not the bad guys! They just support the bad guys!
And this is why democrats throw on the shocked pikachu face every election they lose. When you shit on a person for years, have kneejerk reactions to whatever they think and generalize half the population, don’t be shocked when they don’t vote for “your guy”. Also, your slightly racist grandma will go out and vote every time, when your asses won’t.
Worth pointing out that a national poll is pointless as we do not have national elections.
Show me the polling from these states:
Iowa - 1/15 Caucus - 8/24 - Trump +20
New Hampshire - 1/22 Primary - 8/15-17 - Trump +20
Nevada - 2/6 Primary, 2/8 Caucus 6/26-28 - Trump +30
South Carolina - 2/24 Primary 8/17-19 - Trump +34
Michigan - 2/27 Primary 8/1-2 - Trump +48
Idaho - 3/2 Caucus (no polls available)
D.C. - 3/3 Primary (no polls available)
(Trump D.C. Trial begins) - 3/4
Super Tuesday - 3/5 - Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Masachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia.
Mini-Tuesday - 3/12 - Georgia, Mississipi, WashingtonAnd even if it did have significance, dropping 6 points still puts him way ahead of any of the competition.
Especially since those 6 points didn’t go to one candidate.
Yes, but it shows discontent and as candidates drop out, they will end up converging on one vs trimp
I doubt it. As the candidates bow out, most voters will return to Trump as their second choice. His voters aren’t leaving because they don’t like him.
If they’re not on the trump train now, or are looking at alternatives, they are more likely to change to other candidates. The question is whether there are enough sane people.
I wonder if the emperor having no clothes will suddenly lead to an abandonment by his base. Full on support, until it isn’t.
Trump being the GOP front-runner is great news for Democrats.
The only thing better would be if Trump tried spinning off onto a 3rd party. Dividing the conservative vote would be the best thing to happen to this country in decades.
The bigger issue for Republicans isn’t really Trump, but Trumpism. Let’s say that Trump dropped out tomorrow and didn’t run as a third party candidate. Apart from pigs flying and Satan having a snowball fight, the Republicans would need to pick a new frontrunner.
The person who would likely have the best chance of winning the general election would be Nikki Haley. This isn’t to say that I like her or agree with her positions (I definitely don’t). I just think that she would be the Republican candidate that would have the best shot in the 2024 general election.
Nikki isn’t going to survive the primary, though. The Republican primaries are all about how far right you can go. They don’t cheer moderate conservative views, they cheer far right views. Basically, they want a candidate who will go right up to the “this country should only be run by straight, white, Christian men” and then dip their toe over that line. And this is just getting bolder so soon they’ll only vote for someone who is willing to erase the line and arrest anyone who says that there should be a line.
What happens when a “Only Straight White Christian Men” candidate meets the general electorate, though? They get trounced - especially if they’re up against a moderate Democrat. (I lean progressive, but I’m enough of a realist to know that moderate Democrats are the best bet to win in some areas.)
So even if Trump were out of the picture, the vicious cycle of “we need someone Republicans even further to the right” will make them less and less electable. Of course, Republicans won’t give up power willingly so they’ll rely more and more on gerrymandering, disenfranchisement via voter suppression, and other dirty tactics to keep their minority rule.
Definitely. Trump’s own ego compels him to run for nomination but by running and winning he increases the chances of losing the election and going to prison with nobody to pardon him.
That said the Democrats need to be very concerned about a 3rd party called “No Labels” that masquerades as a left leaning party but is strongly suspected to be a spoiler party orchestrated by the right. Don’t be surprised if Joe Manchin sleazes his way into the limelight by running as their candidate.
2016 taught me to not be too confident, but does anyone actually like Manchin?
Moderate to left types hate him and he has a D next to his name, so GOP voters see him as satanic. Am I missing something?
He wouldn’t be the only spoiler candidate this year. We already have dumb and dumber running - RFK Jr and West. Every last one of these pieces of shit has Republican (and thus Russian) connections.
It would be a blessing if he did run since as you say Manchin is not a popular person inside the Democratic party or in general.
calling west “dumb” or “dumber” belies your own ignorance. he’s an ivy league educated prodigy.
strongly suspected to be a spoiler party
He wouldn’t be the only spoiler candidate this year. We already have dumb and dumber running - RFK Jr and West.
Every last one of these pieces of shit has Republican (and thus Russian) connections.
Hopefully. I remember hearing something similar back in 2016.
Negative turnout is going to be a huge deciding factor in this election. Can’t win the nomination without Trump, can’t win an election with him.
So, a minimal change and still has him leading the next closest Republican candidate by 38%.
Needs to drop off the planet tbh
Which debate now? The one he missed? Or was there another?
unfortunately now desantis is probably leading and gives Biden a bad chance
“unfortunately now desantis is probably leading” ???
Trump dropped from 56% to 50%.
Desantis rose from 10% to 12%. He is still 38% behind and is not leading in the slightest.
Desamtis also couldn’t beat Biden imo
Desantis couldn’t even beat Mickey Mouse.
DeSantis cannot marshall the turnout that Trump can, no way he wins against Biden.
I hope so, because I remember what happened with Hilary
Given a choice between DeSantis and having a root canal, many people would consider the root canal. DeSantis is a black hole of charisma. He’s utterly unlikeable, and even the nuttiest republican voters are starting to see it. If he were the candidate, Biden would be a shoo-in.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/26/desantis-drops-ramaswamy-rises-in-polls-00113076
DeSantis is super far behind Trump. This loss for Trump won’t help DeSantis, not to mention that DeSantis’s rating is so low that it wouldn’t threaten Biden at all.
I mostly agree with you. He is still second. So he can hold out hope that Trump goes away.
