• Rania Rudhan 🇩🇿🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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    we are not suggesting running around and shooting billionaires, that’s not a revolution, the Bolsheveik revolution didn’t just assassinate the Tsar, there was more.

    if saving nature is profitable, why isn’t there an insanely rich person who solved global warming yet?

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      You can’t just paint targets and hope their absense will make things better; you have to have ultimatums, so that they and their peers have incentive to change.

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      We are not suggesting running around and shooting billionaires

      Then what are the guns in the comic and the title of this post for?

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      They’re working on it.

      Shit, before Elon got distracted by Twitter he was the richest person by starting an electric car company to try and keep earth alive long enough to get people to another planet through his other company SpaceX. So you can say there is already an insanely rich person who got that way from trying to help with global warming.

      But it’s not magic. Ideas still need to exist. Technology still needs to exist or be invested, and impact takes time. If someone discovered some power source that provided all the benefits of fossil fuels, without the downsides, that could work at scale regardless of the environment. They’d be a trillionaire within 10 years.

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        He didn’t start Tesla, he bought his way in. The guy hasn’t had a single original thought in his life. He just invests in companies that sound cool to him, he doesn’t give a shit about the future or the current state of humanity. And he stole that wealth by exploiting the people that work for him. Stop idolizing wealthy people.

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          Adding to this, he tried to do the whole “X” thing at PayPal and they removed him from his board position because of it. Fortunately for him, he had already bought in with his generational wealth and was able to simply fail upwards from there.

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          It’s federated, I didn’t seek this post or instance out. What does being on lemmygrad mean? I don’t inherently know the ideology behind every instance, if you’re getting at something related to that.

          • Rania Rudhan 🇩🇿🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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            What does being on lemmygrad mean?

            Lemmygrad is a Marxist-Leninist instance, commies or Tankies or whatever you know it as, if you’re interested in like learning about it and discussing it you’re free to do so, but Capitalist apoligia isn’t allowed here.

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              Define “capitalist apologia” as differentiated from discussing Marxist-Leninist “shoot people to solve world problems” ideology?

              • Simplifying things beyond their meaning doesn’t make you intelligent, it makes you look like baby, “Revolution is when boom boom”

                The guns in the comic and the title of the post are for a revolution, yk just like the “glorious” american “revolution” that yankees worship. revolutions need violence like it or not, the ruling class will not give away its position easily and it will send its dogs to bite us (Police, Army, Fascist militias… etc).

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                In most of hisotry, a very large amount of the problem s were solved by shooting people. Getting the US out of Vietnam and Laos were caused by shooting people. Dealing with the Nazis were done by shooting people. Getting the British out of Ireland was done by shooting people. And shooting people is still the main solution in the world. The main tool to keep the Zionists from continuing to expand are guns and bombs

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                  Probably don’t want to mention Zionists to a concern troll, they’re already looking for excuses to call us Nazis.

                  For lurkers: We “tankies” do not support the violence that Israel commits against Palestine, as it is a settler apartheid state similar to South Africa that brutally suppresses the Palestinians. While you might’ve only seen violence from Palestinians in the news, this is only because the news ignores Israel’s violence against them in order to blame the victim.

                  Notice that during this paragraph their ethnicity did not play into it. If the situation was reversed and Jews were being systematically destroyed by Arabs, we would be just as opposed to it. “Zionism” in this context refers to the idea that the Jewish people “deserve” to carve out an ethnostate in the middle east, at the expense of the people living there. If you have read this and believe that Jewish people deserve an ethnostate because of the Holocaust, you should ask why that state needs to be in the middle east, at the expense of the non-Jewish people living there, rather than say…in Germany, the nation that actually committed those horrific atrocities.

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                    I think they’ll call us Nazis no matter what. We shouldn’t pretend Zionists are evil just to avoid being called something we will be called regardless