If “Vote for Educated Leaders” is truly a controversial statement, then we’re all fucked.
Your leaders absolutely should be educated, not even necessarily in politics, but Bob next door who’s only got two neurons in his head fighting for third place shouldn’t be leading any country
The indian PM has a controversial masters degree ( mostly a fake one), so when someone says vote for educated people , he feels its an personal attack on him and his party !
You forgot to name the prestigious degree: “Entire Political Science”
It’s depressing that people still believe him on anything, but that’s the current state of things
Did you just wake up from hypersleep? We definitely are fucked my guy.
Can I hypersleep until we make our way round to not being fucked?
Make sure to kill Hitler on the next loop.
I’m curious how the timeline would go without Constantine, which would likely also cause Hitler to have never existed.
Go deeper.
Right the greatest wrong of history and make Persia win at Marathon.
You want to use water? Like from the toilet?
I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that’s a problem. But “Vote for educated leaders” shouldn’t be exactly controversial. If you’re angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?
Well that is where societies get to. Being educated or uneducated becomes equivalent to a political stance. There are plenty of examples of educators getting murdered by governments, sometimes en masse.
Pol Pot took it a step further and murdered anyone who wore glasses, because wearing glasses was seen as being educated.
Authoritarians of every type hate the educated, because the educated often hate authoritarianism.
The CCP didn’t massacre a bunch of uneducated citizens in Tiananmen Square.
Because the CCP isn’t a thing
Well. you got your work cut out for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party
Oh, Wikipedia, that’s a great source
You don’t recognize the ruling party on the Chinese mainland? What is this, Taiwan?
sigh the massacres were in side streets, not the square. The students themselves left under the threat of being removed violently once it became clear that the hardline faction in the CCP had won out over the reformists.
Saying things like “Students were massacred on the square” only gives the CCP ammunition for their “see what kind of vile propaganda the west spreads, they’re making shit up” narrative.
Why is it an important distinction? Massacre is massacre whether it’s on a square or on side streets.
Because of what I already said. Also even if the CCP wasn’t using that kind of talk for internal propaganda it’s still nice to be accurate, you know?
It just seems like a small detail that wouldn’t actually benefit their propaganda at all.
It’s a thing that every Chinese knows, that the students weren’t massacred. They were the main force behind the whole thing, it’s not a minor detail. The collective memory, the meaning of the whole thing would be vastly different had they been massacred. It’s more or less a symbol and reminder that you’ll be “invited for a tea” before anything actually bad happens, that shit is oppressive yes but it’s not cultural revolution times where it was nigh impossible to know how you’re even supposed to act, where the limits are. They’re still fuzzy but they’ll be explained to you over a stern cup of tea nowadays.
It may be a small detail from your POV, it isn’t from the Chinese one.
sigh the massacres were in side streets, not the square
Good thing that I wrote “The CCP didn’t massacre a bunch of uneducated citizens in Tiananmen Square.”
The way I read is “The CCP didn’t massacre a bunch of uneducated citizens in Tienanmen square”. Because, you know, the context was “educated people get slaughtered”.
He said, “Next time vote for someone who is well-educated so you don’t have to go through this again.” I agree with him, and moreover I think teachers should be allowed to express themselves because everything is political. But I can’t in good conscience argue that this was a politically-neutral statement. In particular, the words “Next time” are saying very plainly that he doesn’t think it went well this time. This is a political argument against the current ruling government.
he made a response on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU09ODTvMqg
He said he meant to be politically neutral.
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This thread is fucking chilling in its ironic self righteousness.
If only there were an article we could read that makes this clear…
Very telling (and not without reason) that just reading the headline creates an automatic assumption that this occurred in a US “red” state.
I definitely read the headline and thought “please don’t be my state again”
Can you explain why?
(I am not from US)
The US republican/trump/conservative (known collectively as Nazi’s) followers are historically against education. These people are currently promoting a religious inquisition to eliminate books and curriculum in schools that they feel do not align with their hate based religious and intolerant beliefs. Teachers and librarians are being physically threatened and fired for refusing to comply with the book bans and twisted educational mandates. The politicians that populate the groups I mentioned are not considered smart themselves (like stating wind generators were a threat because they would use up all the wind eventually) so advising children to vote for educated politicians threatens their one and only goal, the retention and accumulation of more power.
Oh damn. Indian politicians are also very uneducated but they don’t usually go against education
Funny thing: in early years of Russian Federation “red state” meant southern pro-communism pro-education/healthcare/pension/science funding state.
Around 40% of Indian politicians are only educated up to school (stat might have changed), and the ruling party is quite dystopian in silencing narratives that go against it.
Sorry, but what does “up to school” mean? (I am American, and many of our education groups are schools.) Is that school prior to college, ending near age 18, or something else?
Edit: thank you, I now understand
Upto age of 16 or might include upto 18
till 10th grade (GED equivlent i guess.)
I would guess that most republicans politicians are actually pretty highly educated. Trump even went to ivy league schools. They value it, just not for their voters.
Not really. They use Ivy League schools more for making connections with other wealthy people and getting jobs through those connections than actually learning anything.
Yes I get that about india, but i’m asking why the other perso thought it was US first. Is there any similiar event or so?
Majority of users on lemmy are probably americans by now and they assume everything is about their country.
Luckily this one is in India
Quirk of a polarized political system thanks to FPTP-voting. Sooner or later even the lamest, most basic stuff suddenly turns political and “controversial” while billionaires laugh all the way to the bank. It’s by design and what happens when groups of individuals are allowed to hoard obscene wealth and use it to rule the masses.
I mean - I dislike financial inequality as much as the next person, but attributing the failing education system and polarization to “billionaires” will get us nowhere.
The vast majority of politicians, educators, propagandists and just insecure people are not billionaires. Don’t take away their responsibility, they are not mindless babies.
Except that the money flowing to the top 1% are the result of politics. The tax cuts which funnel money out of the public coffers and into billionaires’ pockets also require cuts to services, like education. Polarization is what’s required to motivate voters to continue to vote against their own interests. They’re very much connected.
The question then is why the 1% have such influence. Why is lobbying even legal when politicians are supposed to represent the people. Why are politicians allowed to trade stocks with inside information on policy. Why do we allow money to corrupt democracy.
Other countries have the problems of first past the post (and I’m it’s biggest critic) but I don’t think politics is as polarising like a team sport as in the USA, and monetary incentives like lobbying are illegal in most countries
I agree. In general, lobbying is a much bigger issue than the “billionaires”. Lobbying exists at all levels. You can have a dinner with a local politician for a very affordable fee ($3-5K), and meet the former or the future president (maybe even the current) for $200-300K. Lobbying is everywhere, it’s not limited to billionaires.
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Being in 1% by income makes one barely a millionaire. Most likely not even that if they live in an expensive city and have a family.
0.1% is probably more accurate, but the general idea is the same
BJP wants to turn india into hindu theocracy.
There’s absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more. It’s happening in America, Europe, Canada, and all of their media and influencers are working together to push the same “values” on everyone, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, and anti-intellectual, anything “woke”.
It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies, that’s the real world war we’re going to have to go through in order to stop them from holding us back and to fix this world’s problems.
It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies
Democrats 🤝I.N.D.I.A alliance
Democrats and Progressives are just America’s portion, here’s a big old list of the other folks we should be allied with:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_political_parties
However use caution, far too many of these also act as or are funded as controlled opposition, similar to how the American Green Party is generally funded by the Republicans and Russia.
old list
is latest version available.
I don’t think they meant that the list was outdated. “Big old” is an American English (mostly Southern IIRC) term, which means pretty big.
You got it, apologies for using a confusing colloquialism.
There’s absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more.
I don’t think so. I don’t even think Russia wants to be Russia right now. They want to be the USSR. They want to be powerful and feared. There are some people that might want to become what they thought Russia was a few years ago, but Russia right now? Russia is getting their shit pushed in by Ukraine and falling out of windows right now. Russia is weak. There is no future for a country down the path Putin chose.
You are almost correct. But Putin doesn’t want Russia to be USSR, he wants to be in power entire his life and after death. He wants personal autocracy or dictatorship where KGB helps keep him and his oligarchs in power. Even war he started is a mean to throw a wall on people’s heads.
People who want Russia to be USSR do it not because they want to be “powerful and feared”, but because in USSR there was decent healthcare outside of Moscow, school near their home wasn’t closed by Sobyanin and there was no war with Ukraine. Because in USSR there was “peace to world” instead of “we will turn world to radioactive ash”(AFAIR Kiselev’s quote, Putin’s propagandist), “glory to science and production” instead of warmongering and destruction.
You are almost correct. But Putin doesn’t want Russia to be USSR,
He wants rule the countries that used to be part of the USSR. He wants them to be part of Russia. He wants Russia to be a serious military threat to the rest of the planet like the USSR was.
he wants to be in power entire his life and after death.
Putin wants to achieve what Stalin did and surpass him in terms of having a stranglehold on power in Russia.
People who want Russia to be USSR do it not because they want to be “powerful and feared” but because in USSR there was decent healthcare outside of Moscow
In some places. In other places they tested nuclear bombs in your backyard, and you were totally fucked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site#Health_impacts
I did not mean that Putin wants the standard of living in Russia to be like it was under the USSR. I meant that Putin wants Russia to have the presence that the USSR had on the international stage and corresponding respect.
You are telling me how he wants to be perceived, not who he is - old KGB dictator who forgot to take his medications. The only things he competing in with Stalin: cult of personality and political assasinations.
Interesting article…
exposed to the fallout between 1949 and 1956
1956 is 3 years after Stalin’s death.
You are telling me how he wants to be perceived, not who he is
Presumably, you already know who he is.
The only things he competing in with Stalin: cult of personality and political assasinations.
I would probably add paranoia.
It feels like we’ve been devolving as a species for the last 20 years or so, I’m pretty tired of living in interesting times.
Last 20 years are very boring time. This is how stagnation works.
Shame on him what if I want stupid dumb idiot leaders?
Then you’re in luck!
Always has been
You are in your element
Stop voting for fascists just because they blame all your problems on marginalized people, already.
Not much of an alternative honestly in terms of people running. Voting is useless
That’s a real shame but it says a lot about the motivations of politicians and the fear they have of education. If I ran my own school, I’d be reaching out to him to hire him.
I’d love to see those who disagree with his statement answer the question “when is a good time to not vote for educated leaders?” that applies more than 0.01% of the time.
Even religious people shouldn’t disagree with it. If you want someone with religious background in then you want them to be educated in matters to do with that religion. That they themselves don’t consider that education is telling.
It’s really telling when politicians feel attacked by such a statement.
Teacher fired for promoting education. Got it.
Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.
While I agree that leaders should be educated. It’s not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.
Summarize what’s wrong with the US in one sentence:
Unacademy Teacher Fired for telling students to ‘Vote for Educated Leaders’ Remark during lecture
Read the article and tell me what’s wrong with your post in one sentence.
It’s a colony again?
Bruh, this literally didn’t even happen in the US; it happened in India.
Even if you didn’t read the article, it’s in the article URL LMAO:
Well, it sounds like something that would happen in US.
